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  • every1bets
    Newbie
    • Oct 2009
    • 18

    Newbie

    Hey everyone I'm new to the forums here, just wanted to start a new thread and say hello. I also have a quick question, I never done anything like this before, but I was wondering how the "YTD" and "UNITS" work, and how would I get started on that??? Any info would be great, thanks again. Hope we all have a great rest of the year with the NFL. Good luck!!
    YTD (5-4) +4.55 units
  • daft_picks
    Kryptonite?
    • Nov 2007
    • 357

    #2
    YTD stands for "year-to-date" and is used for record keeping purposes. Units are a measure of betting. A smart thing to do is come up with a unit amount that is comfortable for your bankroll, be it $20 or $100 or whatever, and try flat-betting most games or playing a bit more on games you really like. Most people here don't list their dollars wagered but instead list "units" as a measure. Typically people will play more units on their stronger plays, so you can get a sense of how confident they are about the play.

    I hope this helps, feel free to ask more questions there are a ton of great cappers here with great information.

    And :welcome: to the forum of course!
    GO TITANS!

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    • tampayay
      Member
      • Jan 2008
      • 872

      #3
      how the "YTD" and "UNITS" work, and how would I get started on that???

      You get started on that by

      (0-0) +0.0 Units ytd and start from there, and here off fresh
      NBA: About evenish

      1 Unit = $50

      To the new season :beerbang:

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      • RahStahMan
        PhD in ThC
        • Feb 2007
        • 9235

        #4
        It's my opinion that units are severly misunderstood by the masses so that's a great question, every1bets.

        In short units are a percentage of ones bankroll.

        Although the percentage varies amongst bettors the standard or suggested percentage is 2% with a maximum of 5%.
        Why?
        Because utilizing a small percentage of ones bankroll protects the bettor from going bankrupt when he/she hits the inevitable losing streak. For example, if you have a bankroll of $500 it is suggested you play no more than $10 (2%) to $25 (5%) per play. Let's say you use 5% for your units. You would have to lose 20 plays in a row to go bankrupt. No matter how bad you may run you minimize the possibility that you'll go bankrupt by adhering to unit play. (If you used 2% you would have to lose 50 in a row before you had to reach for your wallet.)
        This is why you should dismiss any "pro" (tout) that suggests you tail his G.O.Y. and put 10 or any exorbitant amount of units on it. That is just horrible money management to bet half your bank or even 1/4 of your bankroll on one play. Those kind of moves will have you reaching for your wallet regularly.
        After you determine your bankroll and the percentage of that bankroll you will use per unit you need to decide whether to flat bet or rate your bets. Flat betting is placing one unit per play and no more. Rating your bets is using a variance of 1 to X number of units based on the "strength" of that play.) The scale a bettor uses varies but many use a scale of 1 to 3. I used flat betting for years early on but have since switched to making my plays vary between 1-4 units. Ideally you want to keep each play on the lower end of the scale and keep the higher end of the scale plays for those plays in which the planets seem to have aligned. You know what I mean?
        Any way don't take my word for it. Here is an article I copy/pasta'd to a text file some years back. I hope I've been of some help and GL with all your gambling endeavors!

        ---------------------------

        Money Management – The Amateur’s Downfall
        By William D. Foote
        Does anyone know why so many people lose at sports betting? Most think it is because of poor handicapping. While this can be true, it is not why most people lose. We know hundreds and hundreds of folks that are excellent handicappers or have access to winning picks that still lose their shirts year in and year out.

        Quite simply, the vast majority of all gamblers maintain poor money management skills. That simple reason above all others is why they lose money. There are those that manage money poorly because they are uninformed and there are those that manage poorly because they are undisciplined. Unfortunately most often times, gamblers are uniformed and undisciplined.

        We could write an entire twelve Volume Encyclopedia length case study on this subject. Given our space and time, we are going to summarize and hopefully you will get the gist. We want to talk about betting discipline and bet size. They actually go hand in hand.

        If you are serious about success, it is imperative that you make a plan and remain disciplined. Your plan must entail proper bet size per unit or per game. You should never risk more than 5% of your bankroll on any one play with an average play being roughly 2% to 3% of your bankroll. We would guess that 99.9% of gamblers are wagering too much on each game and we strongly urge you to not fall into the same trap.

        Most people will wonder, 2% of bankroll? How the hell am I going to make any real money that way? Our answer is very simple. Exert a little patience and a little discipline over a period of time. If you do this, 2% of a growing bankroll can earn you a full time living no matter how small your bankroll is to start. Not too long ago, we wrote an article showing how a $2,000 bankroll could turn into $7,000,000 in twenty years playing 4% on each game and picking only 55%.

        It is imperative to bet a low percentage of bankroll to achieve success. Over the course of any season, and especially in the daily sports, you will encounter winning as well as losing streaks. If you are betting too high of bankroll percentage, one losing streak could eat up your entire bankroll and put you out of business. We cannot stress enough how important this concept is to your success.

        A typical example would be a player that has a bankroll of $1000 and bets $100 on each game. One of two things will happen to this player. He will either hit a cold streak and be out of the game before he knows it, or he will hit a hot streak, up his bets to $200 or $300 per game and then hit a losing streak and be forced out of the game. Quite simply, there is no way to win if you are betting 10% of your bankroll on each game. Losing streaks will happen, as simple mathematics dictates this fact.

        The next area we need to focus on is discipline. This is where most folks fail miserably. We have been betting full time for nearly many years. In the beginning, we were unsuccessful because we lacked discipline. We always could pick winners, but sticking to a very strict plan was the problem. If there is any one piece of advice we could lend amateur sports bettors it is this; you are not going to win every day or even every week. Do not concern yourselves with the battles and focus on the war.

        Do you know how often we get emails from clients that sound like this, “I was wondering about the free service I am entitled to because of the losing week we had”. We will read this, scratch our heads for a moment and reply back. “Losing week? You should have gone 7-3 and picked up 9 units. We went 1-0 on Thursday, 1-0 on Friday, 4-0 on Saturday and 1-3 on Sunday. How did you lose money going 7-3?” To which the client replies.

        “Well, I was betting $100 per game Thursday, Friday and Saturday and made $600. On Sunday I decided to up my bets to $300 a piece in the morning and went 1-2 and lost $360. Since I was down over $300 dollars for Sunday, I bet $700 on the Sunday Night Game. This way I could win back the $360 lost earlier in the day and still show a Sunday profit. Well, the Sunday Night Game lost and now I am in the hole $530 for the week and you all said of I did not show a profit I would get free service.”

        Basically, this person had turned a 7-3 weekend into a lose money proposition. In other words, the picks he bet went 70% and he lost money. Day in and day out we receive similar emails with similar type circumstances.

        The difference between professional gamblers and amateur gamblers is 20% the quality of picks they are playing and 80% the way they manage money. In the case we had described above, the individual failed to accept that Sunday was not going to produce a net profit for him (the battle). Instead of realizing that Thursday through Sunday was a great success that netted a significant profit (the war), they chose to lose site of the overall plan.

        We wish we had more time and more space to help you all understand these concepts, as they are extremely valuable. It pains us to see folks lose over and over because they do not understand money management and the concept of long term profit as opposed to near term foolishness. Make a plan, establish a bankroll, stick to the plan and you will make money. Don’t do those things and you will not. [superiordaily.com]
        ...toke on...

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        • Reggie Hamlin
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 1135

          #5
          Rahstah great article it was a very interesting read. Everyone can learn something
          and I just did. Thanks. Keep the Sticky Green and the money green flowing
          we will be alright. PS PUFF PUFF PASS :beer2:
          NFL 8-5 + 5.97




          The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.

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          • daft_picks
            Kryptonite?
            • Nov 2007
            • 357

            #6
            that's the **** right there!
            GO TITANS!

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            • every1bets
              Newbie
              • Oct 2009
              • 18

              #7
              Whoa, great article RahStahMan...as I was reading it, I was realizing that this was some of the betting trends that I do my self, and I gotta stop betting that way and think more long term then just short, and that your not gonna win every week or weekend...
              And in a different thread daft_picks was saying how these 6-7-even 10 pt teasers are really just "sucker bets" and all it takes is just ONE upset and you loose your whole parlay, which we all know this has happen prob more times then none.
              So I just wanna say thanks a lot for the info!! unfortunately for me this week, I had already made my picks BEFORE reading both of these great threads....so here they are and next week will start a different betting trend for me from here on out. THANKS AGAIN!!


              10 Point Teaser (3 Teams) .4 to win .3 units WON .7units

              Cardinals(Arizona) +17
              Giants(NewYork)

              Falcons(Atlanta)
              Cowboys(Dallas) +6

              Vikings(Minnesota)
              Steelers(Pittsburgh) +6

              10 Point Teaser (3 Teams) .6 to win .5 units WON 1.1units

              49ers(SanFrancisco)
              Texans(Houston) +7

              Colts(Indianapolis) -3.5
              Rams(StLouis)

              Patriots(NewEngland) -5
              Buccaneers(TampaBay)

              7 Point Teaser (2 Teams) 1unit to win .75 WON 1.75units

              Eagles(Philadelphia)
              Redskins(Washington) OVER 30.5

              Patriots(NewEngland)
              Buccaneers(TampaBay) OVER 38
              Last edited by every1bets; 10-27-2009, 09:51 AM.
              YTD (5-4) +4.55 units

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              • every1bets
                Newbie
                • Oct 2009
                • 18

                #8
                Added steelers/Vikings UNDER 46.5 .5 to win .4units WON .9units
                Last edited by every1bets; 10-27-2009, 09:49 AM.
                YTD (5-4) +4.55 units

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                • every1bets
                  Newbie
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 18

                  #9
                  EXCELLENT WEEKEND!! Won all 4 of my bets

                  YTD (4-0) +4.45 units
                  Last edited by every1bets; 10-27-2009, 02:14 PM.
                  YTD (5-4) +4.55 units

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