***Week 9 NFL Discussion***

[Stifler's Mom]

I think CHI will be favored vs TEN....unless they get pounded this week, or lose key players, or something....regardless of what TEN does vs GB.

If Braylon Edwards could catch the ball, he'd be dangerous.

Kellen Winslow Jr is a baby and a vagina. I'd have to think the BAL defense makes him cry like he always does, lol, although i admit i haven't looked at that game for a second yet, and therefore don't have a real opinion on it yet, or anything solid to add at this point.

[Furashu]

I think CHI will be favored vs TEN....unless they get pounded this week, or lose key players, or something....regardless of what TEN does vs GB.

If Braylon Edwards could catch the ball, he'd be dangerous.

Kellen Winslow Jr is a baby and a vagina. I'd have to think the BAL defense makes him cry like he always does, lol, although i admit i haven't looked at that game for a second yet, and therefore don't have a real opinion on it yet, or anything solid to add at this point.

really? i woulda guessed it would start at -6 for TEN vs CHI. pending both teams win. i havent really been watching the bears, but does the public love them that much to put the line at CHi -3 over tenn?


did u guys consider the ATL @ OAK Game?
i think that -3 is scary to me, i donno if im just in love with ATL or something.. but shouldnt the line be at -6? ATL barely lost to philly( two bad turn overs), they beat GB on the road, beat a pretty good CHI team,

my mind tells me to play this game but i probably wont... seems fishy for some reason.

i have a feeling OAK will win...just a feeling!

[bookiekilla]

did u guys consider the ATL @ OAK Game?
i think that -3 is scary to me, i donno if im just in love with ATL or something.. but shouldnt the line be at -6? ATL barely lost to philly( two bad turn overs), they beat GB on the road, beat a pretty good CHI team,

my mind tells me to play this game but i probably wont... seems fishy for some reason.

i have a feeling OAK will win...just a feeling!

yeah, the line seems a little fishy to me, but I still love the falcons in here (but I love them to win just about every week..lol..but haven't taken them every week this year!)..I'm just looking forward to Ryan throwing all day on fkcn MeAngello Hall...I really hope he's matched up with Roddy White in this one...he's going to try and jump atleast a couple of routs trying to get a pick, and gonna get burned..like he did so many times here in atlanta...IMO the lines haven't caught up with the falcons yet, just my opinion, but I'm not complaining...they should've covered last week vs Philly...hell they should have won straight up if not for a pick from the 2 yard line and then that blown call at the end..but moving on to this game...this is one of the few games that the falcons can win on the road....they're just the better team here, and match up very well against the raiders...Yes, it's going to be a homer play and big one for me on sunday..I haven't had any big plays on the falcons so far this year, but this might be my biggest...atleast 5 units..I know this wasn't really handicapping the game, but I gotta get to work, and will try to come back here and try to explain this one a little better later..

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

I cannot see an 8-0 Tenn team being dogged against a team like Chicago who has a perception of being an "OK" team. You give 8-0 Tenn a FG against Chicago, and you get 90% public on that side...

[Underdog88]

Was watching espn yesterday & they said the Titans will lose @ Chicago. They are always wrong LoL. I do think this is a letdown spot for Tenn this week, as some have already posted. I just don't know if I want to fade them- they are very disciplined & patient. The Colts were able to ruin effectively to set up the play action, even without Addai. I think GB will have to do the same if they want to get their offense going. GB's run D is far from the best, I think Tenn will have an advantage in the groung attack. I'm thinking over 42, as every Packers total this season has gone over that number...

[hodown]

I dont think Tenn will be dogged, but I think it'll be less than 3

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

I just think there are better spots than the GB/Tenn game...that could go either way...Tenn is a very good team, but in a letdown spot....who wins??
Beats me...lol. :dunno:

[Underdog88]

I just think there are better spots than the GB/Tenn game...that could go either way...Tenn is a very good team, but in a letdown spot....who wins??
Beats me...lol. :dunno:

That's what I'm thinking JML. I think Grant getting healthy will help this offense greatly, Thinking both teams get to 20 pts...

[Billy The Kid]

Bills -5.5- Bills are a far better team and have done an excellent job this year taking advantage of other teams mistakes and by forcing turnovers. Now they play against Favre who is the king of forcing balls down field and has not looked good as of late

Eagles -6.5- Eagles were one of my top rated teams at the beginning of the season but the injury to Westbrook really hurt their offensive consistancy. With him back last week things started to pick up and I don't see any reason to believe they won't continue to get better against the SeaDucks. As long as Sandy Reid doesn't blown the game with a few bone headed plays call IMO the Eagles should roll.

Cardinals -3- Love watching the Cardinals offense play as their WR group is loaded and continues to make plays. The emurgance of S. Breaston just opens things up for LFitz and Anquan, two guys who didn't have trouble getting theirs in the first place. St. Louis comming off three straight good efforts but don't think their offense can keep up with an Arizona team that is a major threat to score on every possession. Possibly an Over play as well as I can see a 30-24 game.

Looks like I will be on these three come Sunday


Looking at the Tampa Bay/Kansas City game

IMO Tampa should roll after getting beat last week in Dallas. That was a game Tampa wanted to win to quite the critics over their poor road performances this year and got out played by a struggling Dallas team. KC two weeks ago got blown out at home by Tenn. Im not putting Tampa in the same class as the Titans but they do have similar styles of play. Establish and pound the run and good hard nose defense that doesn't take too many gambles and stops the run. Yes Kansas City played well last week but that was against a ****ty Jets team that we all seem to agree just plain blows. What reason do the Chiefs have only being 7 point dogs, decides the fact that historically Arrow Head has been a tough place to play, but that isn't really the case this year. Losses to Oakland and Tennesse. Yea they beat the Broncos and at the time it seemed like the upset of the year but after the past few weeks its not that unbelievable, the Chiefs just had the gameplan to beat Denver that the rest of the league has since copied. John Gruden is a great game planner IMO and I don't see him letting a rookie QB get too comfortable in the pocket this week. IMO the Bucs look to make a statment even against one of the worst teams in the league. Any Thoughts????

[Stifler's Mom]

I didn't say CHI would be as much as -3, just that I think they might be favored.

Doesn't matter if TEN is +2.5 or -2.5, the public is probably going to unload on them anyway at what they see as an insignificant amount of points, and same for those who like CHI. For some reason public players see +/-3 as such a significant number that they'll pay a **** pile of juice for it (cause SO MANY games land on exactly 3, LOL), but anything above or below that doesn't seem to matter (well sometimes 7, which probably even less games land exactly on).

Here's the key though, the books don't respect the public's opinion, or give a **** who they're loading up on, because they know plenty of those plays lose.

BUT if CHI is dogged, say +2.5 or even +3 as some of you are hoping, that leaves the ml at what? +130? +140? That dog ml will get bashed so hard by sharp money (imo) that the books won't know where to turn, and public money will never be able to offset it.

So to counter, I think they throw CHI -1.5 out there or something, accompanied by about a -115 to -120 range ml, and it might still see some sharp money, but it isn't nearly as appealing as +130ish or +140ish, and while they might have slightly more on TEN, I personally believe that

a) CHI will get enough backing to counter most, if not all of the money on TEN....between public types that like them and potential sharp money

and

b) the books will be willing to take a stand on CHI if necessary anyway in what would amount to a really difficult spot for TEN

[FlyersFan]

how about saving the chicago/tenn game discussion for next week....:beerbang:


would be nice to get some chatter going about this weeks games....

[Furashu]

colts get bob sanders and addai back pending any inpractice injuries

[Daws1089]

how about the denver/miami game. I saw one place had miami +3 +110. and Denver -3 -130. They must really not want to move off of this number. What is everyone's obsession with denver anyway? Do people stil think they are a good team after what happened 2 monday's ago? I'm not buying it and don't plan on backing denver with my money from here out. Who the hell is going to win that division anyway?

[FlyersFan]

how about the denver/miami game. I saw one place had miami +3 +110. and Denver -3 -130. They must really not want to move off of this number. What is everyone's obsession with denver anyway? Do people stil think they are a good team after what happened 2 monday's ago? I'm not buying it and don't plan on backing denver with my money from here out. Who the hell is going to win that division anyway?

i know JML likes MIA.

My initial thought was DEN on the game because i thought it was a small number to pay for them off of a bye week. May leave the game alone, though. Not sure if MIA is ready to go into Mile high and come out with a win which is basically what you're betting on based on the pick the winner theory under 7 points.

[Daws1089]

my problem with them is their defense. At home they've given up 38 to SD, 32 to NO, 13 to TB and 24 to JAX. On the road they have done equally poor. Giving up 41 to NE, 33 to KC, and 14 to OAK. imo, miami's offense isn't like TB or Oak, its a bit more dynamic than those two. This team has serious issues with stopping anyone especially the pass. Pennington isn't flashy, but hes getting it done.