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  • JohnnyMapleLeaf
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    • Feb 2007
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    #16
    Yeah...14's a stretch....all my books have 11.5/12....that would be a 2.5 point movement!!

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    • homedawg
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      • Feb 2007
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      #17
      Originally posted by JohnnyMapleLeaf
      Yeah...14's a stretch....all my books have 11.5/12....that would be a 2.5 point movement!!
      every1, is in luv with the pats.....jp will come through... :beer2:

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      • Sharukh10
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        • Jul 2007
        • 21

        #18
        I don't know how accurate weather forecasts are this much in advance, but it looks like it is going to be relatively warm and clear in foxboro up until and through sat. If the weather good i don't think 14 is that ridiculous a line.

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        • FlyersFan
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 12128

          #19
          Originally posted by homedawg
          POLL




          My pick: Chargers!
          this one's for stifler....not a chance, especially without gates. TENN was a perfect 1st round opponent for them....a worse offense than SDG has and all banged up. Rivers is the AFC's version of Eli Manning. They beat up on a bunch of stiffs to end the season....they haven't played a good team in a long long while. Oakland, Denver, Detroit, KC, Baltimore and TENN (who they were dominated by for 56 minutes)...last good team they played was JAX and that was a road L.

          i would honestly say the Giants if their D plays the way it did today, Manning doesn't turn it over and owens is limited.......you won't know any of that before the game starts, but if that turns out to be the case, i wouldn't be shocked to see the star put away with the xmas decorations........
          I am the M'bah a'Flyers Fan !

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          • homedawg
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            • Feb 2007
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            #20
            Originally posted by FlyersFan
            i would honestly say the Giants if their D plays the way it did today, Manning doesn't turn it over and owens is limited.......you won't know any of that before the game starts, but if that turns out to be the case, i wouldn't be shocked to see the star put away with the xmas decorations........
            thanks for the input, :thumbs: yes, TO could be an issue, however every1 thought nyg had no chance against the bucs, why are they now a good team to bet, against the boyz?? the boyz took them by 10 both meetings this year.... :beer2:

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            • Sharukh10
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              • Jul 2007
              • 21

              #21
              Eli has had very good success against the cowboys, even back to last season where they beat the boys in dallas. Keeping eli out of the bad weather might be the best thing for the giants. Plaxico is finally healthy which is huge, i really don't believe he was healthy all year. The giants might have an emotional letdown, but think about it this way; the giants are the most confident they are all year and when is the last time the cowboys played a good half - much less a good game. The one thing that worries me is that the giants always get burned for big plays in the passing game, so i think TOs status is huge.

              I'm a huge giants fan so take these comments with a grain of salt.

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              • FlyersFan
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                • Mar 2007
                • 12128

                #22
                Originally posted by homedawg
                thanks for the input, :thumbs: yes, TO could be an issue, however every1 thought nyg had no chance against the bucs, why are they now a good team to bet, against the boyz?? the boyz took them by 10 both meetings this year.... :beer2:
                i think if Owens is limited, though, that changes the DAL offense. But then again, what are the odds Eli plays another clean game like he did today. I guess i would be shocked if Hasslebeck, king of the untimely turnover in the RZ, could lead SEA past Green Bay in Green Bay....and i really think SDG has little to no chance to win that game if Gates is out,which it looks like he will be......and i like the idea of taking JAX +, but i really don't see NE losing to JAX. Garrard would have to play perfect for that to happen because NE will score points and Brady won't make the bad throws that Rothlesberger did. So that leaves me with the team with the biggest question marks in DAL (Romo in a playoff game and Owens hurt) playing a red hot team in the NYG. Everyone kept waiting for PIT to lose 2 years ago......they never did. Not saying NYG are going to the SB, though. 1 thing is that Tampa Bay couldn't stretch the field without Galloway healthy and if Owens can't stretch the field, i think that the DAL game is going to look like the Tampa Bay game in terms of everyone close to the line of scrimmage daring them to go deep.

                I dunno...those are my thoughts.....probably askew but we'll see....
                I am the M'bah a'Flyers Fan !

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                • JohnnyMapleLeaf
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                  • Feb 2007
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                  #23
                  My upset pick would be the Jacksonville Jaguars. :beer2:

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                  • homedawg
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                    • Feb 2007
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                    #24
                    vegas lines are up..... nep -11.5 to 12.5 .... keep it growin'

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                    • Underdog88
                      I drink your milkshake!!!
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 13981

                      #25
                      Originally posted by homedawg
                      I'm hopin' it does too.... give me some input on an upset.... :beerbang:
                      IMO Seattle is out of the question. Horrid road team, pretty one-dimensional (not half the running game they once had) playing in a hostile environment. Leinart & Anderson lit up the Seahawks secondary in the regular season, Favre will eat them alive. GB has the balanced offense to put up points on Sea, plus the tough D to provide takeaway opps.

                      Dallas is the play.... mismatches all over the field. If not for TO's status, I think the line would be higher. Dallas passing game is not the Bucs passing game.... they will expose the G-men's secondary. Eli won't be able to screen the Boys to death like he did vs. TB. Only a complete Boys meltdown results in an upset there...


                      That leaves the two afc games....


                      Jags- this team has that something, makes me think they keep it really close. Honestly, I'm likely to be on them even down to 10. I may start an argument here, but look at the Patriot's home games this season. Is it really even a debate that this will be the best team they have faced @ home? Garrard's 2ndh performance scares me, as he'd have to play a near perfect game for the Jags to win. However, the Pats surrender 4.4 ypc, & the Jags will adhere to the run game. I think this sets up for a good over play as well...


                      Chargers may be a good spread play, but I'm not sure if they take it su. Colts D severely underrated, & Rivers on the road= yikes! They did already beat the Colts, but special teams played a huge part. Right now I'm looking at the under....
                      Champagne for my real friends, real pain for my sham friends...

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                      • FlyersFan
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 12128

                        #26
                        Originally posted by homedawg
                        vegas lines are up..... nep -11.5 to 12.5 .... keep it growin'
                        i have to ask something....and as someone who didn't follow the NFL weekly i am just asking.....why every time i looked on this site was everyone claiming how NE was a covering machine, and now everyone is looking to fade them. They covered some meaty lines vs. some good teams this year, so why all of a sudden are they an "upset special" and everyone is looking to take JAX......:dunno:....just curious...thx
                        I am the M'bah a'Flyers Fan !

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                        • homedawg
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                          • Feb 2007
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                          #27
                          Originally posted by FlyersFan
                          i think if Owens is limited, though, that changes the DAL offense. But then again, what are the odds Eli plays another clean game like he did today. I guess i would be shocked if Hasslebeck, king of the untimely turnover in the RZ, could lead SEA past Green Bay in Green Bay....and i really think SDG has little to no chance to win that game if Gates is out,which it looks like he will be......and i like the idea of taking JAX +, but i really don't see NE losing to JAX. Garrard would have to play perfect for that to happen because NE will score points and Brady won't make the bad throws that Rothlesberger did. So that leaves me with the team with the biggest question marks in DAL (Romo in a playoff game and Owens hurt) playing a red hot team in the NYG. Everyone kept waiting for PIT to lose 2 years ago......they never did. Not saying NYG are going to the SB, though. 1 thing is that Tampa Bay couldn't stretch the field without Galloway healthy and if Owens can't stretch the field, i think that the DAL game is going to look like the Tampa Bay game in terms of everyone close to the line of scrimmage daring them to go deep.

                          I dunno...those are my thoughts.....probably askew but we'll see....
                          I was so pissed at the seabags yesterday.... but today, (after the 30beers wore off) they may have a shot against the pack.... :beerbang:

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                          • FlyersFan
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                            • Mar 2007
                            • 12128

                            #28
                            Originally posted by Underdog88
                            IMO Seattle is out of the question. Horrid road team, pretty one-dimensional (not half the running game they once had) playing in a hostile environment. Leinart & Anderson lit up the Seahawks secondary in the regular season, Favre will eat them alive. GB has the balanced offense to put up points on Sea, plus the tough D to provide takeaway opps.

                            Dallas is the play.... mismatches all over the field. If not for TO's status, I think the line would be higher. Dallas passing game is not the Bucs passing game.... they will expose the G-men's secondary. Eli won't be able to screen the Boys to death like he did vs. TB. Only a complete Boys meltdown results in an upset there...


                            That leaves the two afc games....


                            Jags- this team has that something, makes me think they keep it really close. Honestly, I'm likely to be on them even down to 10. I may start an argument here, but look at the Patriot's home games this season. Is it really even a debate that this will be the best team they have faced @ home? Garrard's 2ndh performance scares me, as he'd have to play a near perfect game for the Jags to win. However, the Pats surrender 4.4 ypc, & the Jags will adhere to the run game. I think this sets up for a good over play as well...


                            Chargers may be a good spread play, but I'm not sure if they take it su. Colts D severely underrated, & Rivers on the road= yikes! They did already beat the Colts, but special teams played a huge part. Right now I'm looking at the under....

                            udog- agree on that JAX game being high scoring.
                            I am the M'bah a'Flyers Fan !

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                            • wsox08
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                              • Feb 2007
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                              #29
                              Originally posted by FlyersFan
                              i have to ask something....and as someone who didn't follow the NFL weekly i am just asking.....why every time i looked on this site was everyone claiming how NE was a covering machine, and now everyone is looking to fade them. They covered some meaty lines vs. some good teams this year, so why all of a sudden are they an "upset special" and everyone is looking to take JAX......:dunno:....just curious...thx
                              The past few weeks teams have played the Pats tough and close. It seems like teams are learning more about the Pats game plan and Jax is a team that might be able to expose those weaknesses and take advantage of them. It seems like teams play harder vs. NE than other teams (ex. Balt, NYG). I could add more but I'm lazy.
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                              Each play is to win the # of units posted unless it's a dog then I'm betting that amount.

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                              • homedawg
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                                • Feb 2007
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                                #30
                                Originally posted by FlyersFan
                                i have to ask something....and as someone who didn't follow the NFL weekly i am just asking.....why every time i looked on this site was everyone claiming how NE was a covering machine, and now everyone is looking to fade them. They covered some meaty lines vs. some good teams this year, so why all of a sudden are they an "upset special" and everyone is looking to take JAX......:dunno:....just curious...thx

                                just like in any sport: The Books Always Win!!!.... when you understand that, you will know the fact that the books will INFLATE on public perception...

                                simple math: every match has a 50/50 odds, every ats will get 50/50 odds, and the books will adjust for that...

                                nep could go 19-0 s/u, so be it, but they will NEVER go 19-0 ats!!!!!!!! :beer2:

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