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  • yomonte
    referee
    • Feb 2007
    • 3563

    #31
    Looks like Todd Collins may start for Wash week 15.
    If its fun, do it

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    • recovering77
      Public Fader
      • Mar 2007
      • 464

      #32
      I'm a bit weary of taking the skins next week with collins having such a great game this week. I saw a lot of collins in the preseason, and he did move the ball very well, but it was hard to tell with the preseason and all.

      This week we got 2 to add to the list.
      St. Louis with their third QB, after winning last week.
      Brock Berlin gets the start this week and +9.5 for the line. I didn't think he was all that great in college, so I wonder how he made the pros. Probably cuz of the tough schedule Miami FL plays every year.

      ATL +3.5 against New Orleans.
      Redman almost got me a miracle push last week. Was it cuz the rams defense is that bad or does this kid really have talent? Louisville QB in the pre-Brohm BCS mentioning days.
      2023
      39-39-2 Plays, 26-25 Leans, System Plays (2-1), Half System Plays (2-4)
      Playoffs 6-4 Plays, 4-1 Leans

      2022
      43-46 Plays, 24-28 Leans, 4-4 System Plays, 2-0 Half System Plays
      Playoffs 8-4 plays, 1-2 leans, 1-0 Half System Plays

      2021
      36-29 Plays, 25-31 leans; Playoffs 3-3 Plays, 0-2 leans

      2020
      18-16-1 Plays, 18-18-1 Leans; Playoffs 6-2 Plays, 0-1 Leans

      2019
      15-8 plays, 7-6 leans, 2-1 Heavy MLs

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      • JB
        Moderator
        • Feb 2007
        • 4673

        #33
        Originally posted by Horfin
        Sorry if you already addressed this but:

        Week 6 - Arizona lost to Carolina 25-10 (game Warner was hurt first series) 5-3-1
        Week 6 - Carolina beat Arizona 25-10 (Testaverde) 6-3-1


        :dunno:

        Seems like a 1-1. Don't think you count Warner hurt in first series as a loss. Just seems like you go with the following game with Arizona and back up.


        Horfin?
        Warner started that game...was the first game that Lienhart did not start for them.
        Testaverde was in for Carr...but really that game should be excluded because Carr had been in for Delhomme in Week 4.

        It only works once per year per team.....lmao. At least thats the system....the first time the back-up replaces the starter....

        I will adjust...not fair to give Carolina the victory on the system there.
        If it ain't fun, don't do it!

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        • JB
          Moderator
          • Feb 2007
          • 4673

          #34
          Originally posted by recovering77
          I'm a bit weary of taking the skins next week with collins having such a great game this week. I saw a lot of collins in the preseason, and he did move the ball very well, but it was hard to tell with the preseason and all.

          This week we got 2 to add to the list.
          St. Louis with their third QB, after winning last week.
          Brock Berlin gets the start this week and +9.5 for the line. I didn't think he was all that great in college, so I wonder how he made the pros. Probably cuz of the tough schedule Miami FL plays every year.

          ATL +3.5 against New Orleans.
          Redman almost got me a miracle push last week. Was it cuz the rams defense is that bad or does this kid really have talent? Louisville QB in the pre-Brohm BCS mentioning days.
          Atlanta and St. Louis have already been counted. Again...the system is only for the first time in a season that a team has to go with the backup. The theory is that the team will rally around the backup the first time they have to deal with it (plus the fact that you will generally get great line value). By the third and forth time they give up....lol

          Washington will be a play in Week 15 if Collins gets the nod (or Brunell for that matter). At least I think Campbell started every game.
          If it ain't fun, don't do it!

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          • yomonte
            referee
            • Feb 2007
            • 3563

            #35
            Car lost the first time and won the second. Kinda makes Atl a good play
            If its fun, do it

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            • JB
              Moderator
              • Feb 2007
              • 4673

              #36
              Washington is a play in Week 15
              Still waiting on Pittsburgh?
              If it ain't fun, don't do it!

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              • NittanyLions94
                Resident PSU Supporter
                • Feb 2007
                • 2916

                #37
                Originally posted by JB
                Washington is a play in Week 15
                Still waiting on Pittsburgh?
                Ben is expected to play as of now.

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                • MacDaddy
                  Herd
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 172

                  #38
                  Originally posted by JB
                  Warner started that game...was the first game that Lienhart did not start for them.
                  Testaverde was in for Carr...but really that game should be excluded because Carr had been in for Delhomme in Week 4.

                  It only works once per year per team.....lmao. At least thats the system....the first time the back-up replaces the starter....

                  I will adjust...not fair to give Carolina the victory on the system there.

                  Warner did start, but was knocked out of the game early after 2 pass attempts. Rattay finished the game and threw 3 INTs.
                  "All I ask for is the opportunity to prove that money won't make me happy" ---- Unknown:booz:

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                  • JB
                    Moderator
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 4673

                    #39
                    Washington gives us another winner!

                    Week 2 - Cleveland beat Cincinnati 51-45 (Anderson) 1-0-0
                    Week 2 - NY Jets lost to Baltimore 20-13 (Clemens) (ATS Win) 2-0-0
                    Week 3 - Minnesota lost to KC 13-10 (Holcomb) (ATS Push) 2-0-1
                    Week 4 - Raiders beat Miami 35-17 (Culpepper) (ATS Win) 3-0-1
                    Week 4 - Carolina lost to Tampa Bay 20-7 (Carr) (ATS Loss) 3-1-1
                    Week 4 - Chicago lost to Detroit 37-27 (Griese) (ATS Loss) 3-2-1
                    Week 4 - Buffalo beat NY Jets 17-14 (Edwards) (ATS Win) 4-2-1
                    Week 5 - San Francisco lost to Baltimore 9-7 (Dilfer) (ATS Win) 5-2-1
                    Week 6 - Arizona lost to Carolina 25-10 (game Warner was hurt first series) 5-3-1
                    Week 6 - St. Louis lost to Baltimire 22-3 (Ferrotte) 5-4-1
                    Week 6 - Baltimore beat St. Louis 22-3 (Boller) 6-4-1
                    Week 6 - Miami lost to Cleveland 41-31 (Lemmon) 6-5-1
                    Week 7 - Tennesee beat Houston 38-36 (Collins) (ATS Win) 7-5-1
                    Week 7 - Atlanta lost to New Orleans 22-16 (Leftwich) (ATS Win) 8-5-1
                    Week 8 - Jacksonville beat Tampa Bay 24-23 (Gray) 9-5-1
                    Week 9 - Houston beat Oakland 24-17 (Rosenfells) 10-5-1
                    Week 11 - Kansas City lost to Indinapois 13-10 (Croyle) (ATS Win) 11-5-1
                    Week 12 - Philadelphia lost to New England 31-28 (Feeley) (ATS Win) 12-5-1
                    Week 13 - Tampa Bay beat New Orleans 27-23 (McCown) 13-5-1
                    Week 15 - Washington beat NY Ginats 22-10 (Collins) 14-5-1
                    If it ain't fun, don't do it!

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                    • recovering77
                      Public Fader
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 464

                      #40
                      I wanna get the system straight. So you guys only count games only when the starter is not playing? Like If a QB was on it's third QB, it wouldn't count? Cuz Berlin was a third stringer......

                      I think we should scratch off Atlanta from the list. That team is a mess. Get burned every week on those birds.
                      2023
                      39-39-2 Plays, 26-25 Leans, System Plays (2-1), Half System Plays (2-4)
                      Playoffs 6-4 Plays, 4-1 Leans

                      2022
                      43-46 Plays, 24-28 Leans, 4-4 System Plays, 2-0 Half System Plays
                      Playoffs 8-4 plays, 1-2 leans, 1-0 Half System Plays

                      2021
                      36-29 Plays, 25-31 leans; Playoffs 3-3 Plays, 0-2 leans

                      2020
                      18-16-1 Plays, 18-18-1 Leans; Playoffs 6-2 Plays, 0-1 Leans

                      2019
                      15-8 plays, 7-6 leans, 2-1 Heavy MLs

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                      • JB
                        Moderator
                        • Feb 2007
                        • 4673

                        #41
                        The system...very simpley...is to play on a team when they play their back-up QB...the FIRST time they use the back up QB.

                        Atlanta used their backup for the first time in week 7 (Leftwich)
                        I don't care what they do the rest of the year. Redman is a non-issue.

                        Leftwich was the play in Week 7 and it was a winner.

                        Teams are only played a max of ONCE each with this system.
                        If it ain't fun, don't do it!

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                        • SuperSkins
                          Member
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 741

                          #42
                          Washington gives us another winner!
                          :beerbang:

                          lol Let's hope Collins rolls again for the 'Skins this weekend

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                          • SammyJ
                            Ravens Suck
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 69

                            #43
                            so the ravens starting troy smith tomorrow wouldnt count because they already did this with boller right? btw, does anyone think the ravens even have a remote chance of covering against the seahawks?

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                            • BlazerAndy
                              Blazer Fan
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 584

                              #44
                              Originally posted by SammyJ
                              anyone think the ravens even have a remote chance of covering against the seahawks?
                              Seahawks couldn't cover against the Bengals at home earlier this year, and they did lose to New Orleans at home as well. Public is on Seattle. I definitely think Baltimore has at least a chance to cover. Although they have yet to cover on a road game yet this year. **** I'm staying away from this one.
                              “So back during college basketball season my buddy Shecky tells me he’s got this system. He says it’s an absolute lock when you have this combination: Big East team, on the road, given less than 6 points with a white point guard.” ---Artie Lange in Beer League

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                              • JB
                                Moderator
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 4673

                                #45
                                Originally posted by SammyJ
                                so the ravens starting troy smith tomorrow wouldnt count because they already did this with boller right? btw, does anyone think the ravens even have a remote chance of covering against the seahawks?
                                Correct....Ravens with Troy Smith does not count.
                                They where already counted earlier in the year with Boller.
                                If it ain't fun, don't do it!

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