New England/Cincinnati Line

[BlazerAndy]

Anyway, why are the Bengals getting their second home MNF game in 4 weeks? They didnt even make the playoffs last year. I said this before, switch the damn schedule up NFL.

QUEER alert. BENGAL-HATER alert.

I could see Kenny Watson and the Bengals PLAYING SOME ******* BALL AGAINST THE HATRIOTS.

:gulp: :gulp: :gulp:

[GamblinMan03]

QUEER alert. BENGAL-HATER alert.

I could see Kenny Watson and the Bengals PLAYING SOME ******* BALL AGAINST THE HATRIOTS.

:gulp: :gulp: :gulp:

Well im not queer and I am not a Bengal Hater but I dont get it. How can a team that was so bad last year be playing their second MNF game in the first month of the season?

Let this be a 4pm game, I would rather see the Packers and Vikings in prime time and I would have said that before the season.

And why does the NFL have to keep sticking Dallas down our throat. We get it, they are "America's team" but did they really have to be on Sunday Night Football two of the first three weeks of the season?

Same thing with Denver last year. The team had like 5 SNF games and they didnt make the playoffs.

[gladgarbage]

I think making this line NE -7 the oddsmakers are thinking that NE strikes very fast giving Cincy O a chance to strike back. NE aren't a slow down the game and keep the others team O on the bench to win. Brady is a go-go-go qb and I think this gives Cincy a chance with a couple of turnovers.

[rjp]

Kevin, a 14 point home dog is a roughly 65% bet, so the oddsmaker can't possibly reach that far as the sharps would crush whatever money they thought New England would garner.

I'm going to look for a move to 7.5 myself and bet a juicy money line.

Don't bring on the conspiracy theories, though. The line has to be set this high because most people have no idea how much points are worth / how to relate that to the probability of a team winning (not to mention the fact that this is a MNF game).

[Skinsfan]

over

[Skinsfan]

sorry stif, but how can you say cincy is clearly better than san diego? cincy has looked god awful since week 1 and they're lucky to have 1 win.... not saying the chargers have looked any better, but clearly there is nothing "clear" about the situation

[Kevin]

Kevin, a 14 point home dog is a roughly 65% bet, so the oddsmaker can't possibly reach that far as the sharps would crush whatever money they thought New England would garner.

I agree man. I agree with all of Stifs and everybody elses points too.

And again, I hope I made my point that Im going against all my handicapping laurels in this situation. It'll probably come back to bite me but I just gotta do it.

I think NE BLOWS OUT cinci on Cinci's home field and makes a statement that not only are they a dynasty, but that when Tom Brady hangs em up that he will be in the same class as Joe Montana.

Im not sure I've ever seen a QB more "on" than this guy for such a long period of time.

I'll be right back here for some steaming bowl of crow should NE not cover. My whole point is this is one of those weird games to me that comes along once every handful of years.

I could be all wrong. It aint like Im killin it this yr or anything ;)

[rjp]

LOL, I didn't realize you were betting New England. :)

Seeing the opener at 6, you just have to ask yourself one question: "What sharp in the world would bet a road favorite laying 6 on MNF?"

Now in this case I'd say any sharp worth their weight that could bet NE -6 when it opened would be out of their mind not to simply for the middle opportunity that would likely present itself later.

Which brings me to my next question: what number did you get? A 7, I assume?

[DevilsAdvokt]

I set the line for me on this at -7 1/2


only reason is i asked myself what line would make me second guess my pick....


if i take new england i say what if cinci shows up for big game at home and this is a good shoot out and new england only wins by 7

than if i take cinci and the point i turn around and say this is the new england of new not old with Randy Moss! plus look at that pat def this could easy be 38-13


so i think the makers are spot on IMO cause everytime i make a decision im second guessing myself...

so now if i decide to play this game i am gonna buy some points and bring it to a -6 to feel comfortable with new england,

screw the bung holes they arent worth a lick of my betting money right now... go with pats or stay away IMO


GOOD luck

[homedawg]

Books opened this game @ 6. they are getting hit at a 5-1 clip, and some books now showing 8 & 9. Obvious play:

[Stifler's Mom]

sorry stif, but how can you say cincy is clearly better than san diego? cincy has looked god awful since week 1 and they're lucky to have 1 win.... not saying the chargers have looked any better, but clearly there is nothing "clear" about the situation

I feel that way simply because Cincinnati can score, and they showed some signs of life on defense with the exception of the Cleveland game, being able to force turnovers if nothing else. It must be noted that the Bengals, even when they were winning previous years, never had a shut down defense. They lived and died with aggressive play and forcing the turnover.

SD has done absolutely nothing on either side of the ball. They can't run with LT anymore, Rivers can't beat anyone with his arm without LT running for 100+, and their defense hasn't been very good either. The only offense they were able to stop was that of the pathetic Bears, whom everyone knows has a piss poor offense. SD is in shambles IMO, and Norv Turner is a suck ass coach who doesn't know how to stop the slide.

I am far from a believer in the Bengals, but I'm trying to go off what I've seen this season, and while I believe NE is very good, I don't believe they are as good as they appear, because they've beaten no one yet.

To make a comparison, Pittsburgh has waxed everyone they faced too (CLE, BUF, SF)....yet if this were Pittsburgh coming into Cincy on MNF, there is no way on earth they would be a fave of over a TD. There's no way the teams NE has roughed up are better than the ones Pittsburgh has. If the line WAS set at such, I think it's safe to assume that the public would be ALL OVER the Bengals.

So my point is, that IMO the line is overblown because the public reacts much stronger to New England than anyone else, with maybe the exception of the Colts, who come in a close second.

Funny how the public changes their tune so fast, since they were oh so in love with the Bengals for how long now....and all of a sudden they lose 2 games and they're finished in the public's eyes I guess.

I cannot believe the action is not closer than 83%/17% on this game. I have been wrong before, but it sure looks like the public is taking a long walk off a short pier with NE this Monday night....

[Stifler's Mom]

How impressive is that NE shellacking of SD looking now after they got pounded on their home field by 2 TD's against "****ty" KC of all teams?

So now NE has beaten up 1-3 SD (home), 1-3 Buffalo (home), and 1-3 NYJ (road). Big deal....

In a similar scenario, PIT beat the crap out of 3 straight average to weak teams too (2 of them also at home), then went on the road to face a decent one, and picks up their first big "L" of the season. Not saying this has anything to do with the NE/CIN game, because it doesn't....just that not too many saw ARI pulling the outright "upset" today, not any more than what see the Bengals doing it. It can, and does, happen.

I'm not gonna lie and say the Bungles defense/special teams doesn't concern me, because it does, but I don't think NE is as good as advertised, and for that reason I'm planning on taking any points they'll give me on Monday Night, plus maybe a small piece of ML action as well.

I may eat my words on this one (wouldn't be the first time, lol, but I call em like I see em) and NE could beat Cincinnati something like 38-10 too, but my point was to prove that NE hasn't played anyone when I initially replied to this thread, and I think KC and BUF (for some reason many think NYJ are for some reason good??) have proven my point today.

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Yeah....no way I could have backed SD this week....they just plain haven't looked good, and then have to lay 12? Nuts. With those two examples, Buf and KC beat 2 teams that haven't looked very good so far. SD clearly has problems. Many people backed NYJ because of Buf's injuries, not necesarily b/c of a great Jets team. Props to Edwards and Buf.

But on the other hand, NE has looked great...more in the mold of Dallas or Indy, which did cover today....it's not their fault they haven't played teams that people think are "no good", they can't control that, all they control is coming out and blowing people out. Which they have done each week. I see NE pulling an Indy or Dallas this week, and doing what was expected, beating a bad team handily. We'll see. Looking forward to the game.


Bills

[Stifler's Mom]

Yeah....no way I could have backed SD this week....they just plain haven't looked good, and then have to lay 12? Nuts. With those two examples, Buf and KC beat 2 teams that haven't looked very good so far. SD clearly has problems. Many people backed NYJ because of Buf's injuries, not necesarily b/c of a great Jets team. Props to Edwards and Buf.

But on the other hand, NE has looked great...more in the mold of Dallas or Indy, which did cover today....it's not their fault they haven't played teams that people think are "no good", they can't control that, all they control is coming out and blowing people out. Which they have done each week. I see NE pulling an Indy or Dallas this week, and doing what was expected, beating a bad team handily. We'll see. Looking forward to the game.


Bills

Cincinnati is as bad as St Louis?

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Cincinnati is as bad as St Louis?

No...I don't think anyone is. lol. But NE is better than Dal, and only has to lay 7 (6 in my case), not the 13+ like Dallas did against STL.