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I believe Oakland wins easily tonight I may play that....but then again my last two picks got shutout, Boston yesterday, and Tampa the day before LOL...
I just don't see how Seattle is playing poorly. I mean it's not like they're losing 10-1 every night. They've lost the last 4 games by 1 run each, and last night they easily could have won had Putz not given up the HR and blown the save (which IMO was as much the manager's fault as anyone for making the guy come in the game in a situation he's not used to....in the 8th with a runner on base and 1 out), and with the exception of the 2-1 loss in game 1 of the doubleheader (in which Texas LHP Rheinecker pitched FABULOUSLY), the M's certainly scored their fair share of runs in the Texas series (5+ RPG). So it's not like their offense is cold. Their closer certainy isn't overworked either (last night was the first time he pitched in 5 days), and you can't hold it against Weaver that their other SP couldn't hold down the Texas offense, as he didn't even pitch in that series.
Like filmmkrz said, Weaver was pretty much great in 7 of his last 8 starts, and like I said, I'm not gonna hold getting shelled by one of the best offenses in the AL against him and just automatically put him back on the fade list because of it.
Wins and losses just aren't the whole story. You can easily play decent and lose if both teams play a good game, just like you can play like **** and win if both teams play poorly.
Likewise, yes, if it was just Haren vs Weaver, then yes, Haren should be favored, as he has had a real solid year. But when you factor in that Seattle has a better offense and homefield advantage (which is apparently big for the M's judging from their home vs away records), I really think the incorrect team is favored in that game. Yes, Weaver could blow up, or Haren could pitch a 9 inning shutout, but recent numbers from both respective pitchers and offenses don't indicate to me that either one of those things should happen. I more or less see a close game, and if so, when it goes to the pens, I believe Seattle actually has a pretty strong advantage because I'm not sold on Oakland's pen, plus Seattle is the better hitting team, and they have the final at bat.
1 run losses, blown saves, 5+ runs per game or not ....a 6 game losing streak by any team is playing poorly in my books, especially against 2 teams under .500, and more especially in the middle of a divisional race. Getting shut out twice by the Jays? It means they are finding ways to lose by not putting every aspect of the game together. Your Points are well taken though, as always. I don't know...just the way I feel. We'll agree to disagree.
And yeah...my play is mostly on Haren anyway, so if he pitches a good game, which he has mostly all year, they should win, and I'm happy....if not I'll take the loss. Boston and Houston look to be off to good starts, so that's cool. And, hey...You know how I like backing aces on low numbers regardless! lol
Gl with the play...we'll see what happens! :beerbang:
Bosox
Last edited by JohnnyMapleLeaf; 07-26-2007, 08:38 PM.
Reason: Red Sox
I think he is getting the respect he deserves....at only +110 against Haren. I mean this is a team that has lost 6 in a row....its not like Seattle is playing well.
If this game was played 10 days ago and Seattle has lost 6 in a row the line would be +150 or more on Weaver and Seattle.
The fact that Haren is at that short of a price shows how much respect Weaver is actually getting IMO
By the bookmakers absolutely, I mean by the general betting public. Most bettors think this line is nuts cause its haren and they still tend to believe Weaver is the gascan he was in his first 2 games cause his era and win loss record still aren't impressive. Not to say JML didn't cap this game inside and out but his statement is much like others I read like this line against jeff weaver???? really??? like the bookmakers are handing bettors a gift. Im just saying Weavers pitching as well as anybody right now so not to overlook him.
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