Hallday at -290, Sebathia at -325 LOL

[GamblinMan03]

Got the Yanks over 10 for 2 units...No way I can get lucky and win this. Thing about that Tampa game it would have made this loss mean nothing.

[Personified]

You guys are acting childish, laughing at the fact both cleveland and Toronto won made me look stupid.

Can I remind you once again, that you had 2 pitchers, one at -290 and one at -325. Hell, I am not even allowed at to invest one unit on those games at my book. But thats not the point, even if I was, I wouldnt touch them.

I clearly said at the beginning, that those pitchers were overvalued. I did NOT say they werent going to win, it was the matter of how they will win that people shouldnt be risking that kinda money. I said I wouldnt touch any of them, and that Tampa had a shot to win which they did an dshould have won. Said halladay was an average pitcher was exagerated and meant to get a laugh. Of course he is one of the best in the game. I just wouldnt bet anything above -150 on him.

So in the end, both teams won. WOW GREAT! You had Cleveland win a 1- 0 shutout...worth 325? Couldnt even cover the run line. Toronto was down by 7 and made an amazing comeback, worth 290? Hell no, Couldnt even cover the runline either.

So what did I get by laying off?, I didnt have 325 or 290 invested on two teams that should have lost, and saved myself a few heart attacks.

I did try to bet Tampa at 8:05 ...and my bet would have been 190. Not a grand, you guys should know my bets have been reduced to 290 for sides and 100 for totals....

There were better games to wager on that would give you more return for your money.

Like the ones i gave you,....milwaukee won by 2 at +, pitts won on the road by 1 at -105, under nym -120 for a game that went under by 3 runs, under texas, pushed, and cinci lost by 1 on the road at -110....

Ultimately, I proved one thing....BOTH OF THESE GAMES HAD ABSOLUTELY NO VALUE! And if you think it did....do yourself a favor, and quit betting baseball. LOL

[CuseFan10]

So what did I get by laying off?, I didnt have 325 or 290 invested on two teams that should have lost, and saved myself a few heart attacks.

"Two teams that should have lost"??? CC Sabathia threw a gem of a shutout, and with Danny Haren and Josh Beckett has been one of the top 3 pitchers in baseball this season..... Cleveland should not have "lost". That makes no sense. Toronto should have lost, but not Cleveland. You can't discredit the guy pitching brilliantly, and say "they couldn't even cover the run line" just to make your argument look stronger.

Anyway, while I agree (and I'm sure most others do to, even the guys that were bashing you) that there was no "value" in either play, you seem to think you shone some great light upon the fact that -290 and -325 are not smart "value" plays in baseball, and I'm pretty sure EVERYONE already knows that in here (at least the regulars).

[JohnnyMapleLeaf]

Yeah...like Cuse said, of course we all agreed that the lines had zero value...duh...that's why I didn't see one person here on either of them not new stuff here....the ghost of Cy Young could come back and start, and -290 would have little value...MY issue atb the time was your brashly claiming this fact...yet not making a play against either of these great revalations....then coming back with a "got the play in too late" comment AFTER the Rays were killing Doc an hour after the first pitch...not cool. Then bashing Doc as "average" which is also absurd, got to me. The rest was just spur of the moment joking around because of the great Jays comeback unfolding live, and both "zero value" starters actually cashing in the end....it was just very humurous at the time...no hard feelings, whammy...

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[Stifler's Mom]

First of all, I personally agree that these prices are/were stupid, and I don't think too many here will disagree.

I don't mean to stir up any more **** by saying this, but "not even covering the RL" doesn't make sense. A ML is a ML, and a RL is a RL. They are 2 completely separate plays, and must be capped as such. When you play the ML, you only require a 1 run win, and the ML's are inflated like they are BECAUSE the team only needs to win by one run to cash them. You're taking a much larger chance when laying -1.5 runs, hence the reason that the price for -1.5 runs is always so much lower.

People who lay the -1.5 RL just because they don't wanna lay the juice.....sorry, but I just don't get it. I never heard anyone say in hoops or football that they're laying the -5 points because they don't wanna lay -240 for the ML, so why does it make sense in bases? :dunno:

The ML prices are so damn stupid because the public sees easy winners on guys like Halladay, Santana, etc and actually bets on them, and doesn't pay any mind to what the other 17 guys taking the field are playing like at the time, and how good/bad the bullpens are, etc....or parlays them together, which is even worse than laying the -300 IMO, cause now you need 2 (or more) to win....just to get a relatively ****ty payout.

If no one bet these dumbass prices, they'd not be so rediculous though....but we all know that's not ever gonna happen because they're always such easy winners :beerbang: