Books are giving away free monie

[tampayay]

IMO they should have had it @ a "No Action" when there was anything under 9 innings. But at least do the score from the last inning played. Bull ****.

[Kevin]

Surely one of the more rough sports betting decisions I've seen.

Per the rules, it is indeed a loss as it reverts back to the last full inning.

Very ugly situation to say the least.

[bobby0rr]

I remember seeing an * saying that a game could be completed after 5 innings. I thought it just correlated to the rules of baseball, because most people know that occasionally there are shortened games during the regular season. It must have been there to explain that it's different than the rules of MLB.

"Baseball has changed its rule on suspended games several times.

Prior to 1980, the rule in this situation said that if a game was called after the visiting team tied the score or went ahead, and the home team had not finished batting, the score would have reverted to what it was before the inning. The rule was changed after the Baltimore Orioles beat the visiting Yankees 3-0 on Aug. 13, 1978, when New York scored five runs in the top of the seventh only to have them wiped out because of the weather.

Under the new rule, when the visiting team scored to tie or go ahead and the inning wasn’t completed, the game was suspended.

If the Phillies had completed the sixth inning without scoring, it would have been an official tie game under the rule from 1980-2006 and would have been replayed from the start. But under the rule change made in November 2006, if that had happened now, it would have been a suspended game, too, because ties were eliminated starting with the 2007 season."


I guess normally a suspended game is final, so if this was a regular season game it would be a final of 2-2.

So, they are just resuming a game that normally would be official, because they said no shortened World Series games.

Seems like there are more reasons that it should not be a loss, but maybe the rule books is pretty clear about it..

[Horfin]

I understand the rule, I just don't get how it applies in this situations.

Larry stated the rule....for betting purposes a game is complete after 5 innings and they revert back to the last complete inning. Problem is that they are still going to play the bottom of the sixth, the seventh, the eight and ninth. The game is suspended to be resumed. Not suspended and over. If this were a normal situation and not a potential world seies clinching game and it was ended one team gets a win another a loss....... then fine, but that was not the resolution. the game is not over. I understand the rule, I don't get how it applies when the game is to be continued.

Are books going to accept action on the last 3 innings?

[FlyersFan]

Are books going to accept action on the last 3 innings?

the greek is. PHI -152/TAM +142.........no listed pitchers....action only

they also have a bunch of props up for the 7th inning and some for the last couple of innings......:thumbs:

[Billy Barooooooo]

I have a friend of a friend who local is giving it full action pending the game along with the total! I thought is was odd but far. He didn't... cause he has Philly!

Just found it interesting!

BB:thumbs:

[bobby0rr]

then fine, but that was not the resolution. the game is not over. I understand the rule, I don't get how it applies when the game is to be continued.

Are books going to accept action on the last 3 innings?

It seems to me like the oddity of the situation is being downplayed a little bit. I'm not sure that I have it totally under wraps even now. I would think if the game is being continued, then we would see continued action. The way I came to grips with my loss was that the game was officially listed as "suspended." Taking the rules from there, I guess it might be clear cut. They are saying, the resumed game is something different entirely because a regular season game wouldn't be resumed. What about when they need to resume a game to unclinch a deadlock in the standings at the end of the season? Personally, I was trying to understand it from the baseball perspective, which I might have some details slightly wrong, and I'm not sure I have fully understood all the ins and outs of it. I'm not sure I have the whole thing on how it correlates with the betting, but the best I could come up with to satisfy myself was that it may have been officially designated as a suspended game...

[Larry]

Article from ESPN...


What happens in Philly pays in Vegas.


In reality, the Tampa Bay Rays and Philadelphia Phillies are tied 2-2 after rain halted Game 5 of the World Series after 5½ innings.

But in the world of Las Vegas sports books, the Phillies won 2-1 -- and side bets on the Phillies have to be paid out.

Confused? There's a simple explanation.

According to Nevada Gaming Commission rules the final score of an official baseball game, for betting purposes, is determined by reverting to the last completed inning, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported. And the Phillies led Game 5, 2-1, after five completed innings.

Wagers on totals and run-line bets are being refunded because gaming rules stipulate that at least 8½ innings must be played for those bets to pay off, according to the report.

"We're just following the regular baseball rules. This is a very common rule," Las Vegas Hilton sports book director Jay Kornegay said, according to the report. "We can't make exceptions.

"There was no special disclaimer for World Series games, or any playoff games for that matter, that your bet would continue if the game was suspended," Kornegay said, according to the report. "It's one of those unfortunate, misunderstood rules of baseball betting."

Jeff Sherman, assistant manager of the Hilton sports book, told Bloomberg News Services that several regular-season baseball games were affected by the same rule. But none was as high-profile as the World Series game.

"It hasn't had as much notoriety as it's getting now because it's a rare instance," he told Bloomberg. "When we had this during the regular season, we get people who say, 'Oh, I didn't know that.' Now it's just on a lot larger scale."

How about double or nothing?

"I'm sure there are disgruntled bettors because people see it as a 2-2 game and they're stuck with a losing ticket,'' John Harper, senior oddsmaker at Las Vegas Sports Consultants, said in an interview witih Bloomberg. "It's a break for someone who had a Philly ticket.''

Kornegay said the Hilton would post a prop bet Wednesday on the conclusion of Game 5, the Review-Journal reported. He said the Phillies, who have an advantage because they still get to bat in the bottom of the sixth, will be money-line favorites and the wagers will be paid "whenever the game is finished."

According to morning lines in Las Vegas, Philadelphia is listed at -160 and Tampa Bay at +150. If the Rays win, a $1 bet will pay out $1.50; to win on the Phillies, a $1.60 bet wins $1.


Despite the Nevada gaming rules, some sports books, such as MGM/Mirage Properties, did not consider the Phillies the winner on Monday night and will wait until Game 5 is concluded to pay winners.

[FlyersFan]

Here is a thought:

IF PHI won last night, then shouldn't the series be over....:dunno:....which would mean if you paid out a PHI bet last night shouldn't they also technically have to pay out the series bets on PHI as that would make it 4-1 PHI.....

[Larry]

You can win 5 games if you bet philly(if they win the series) every game. Just don't make sense:bang:

[V3r1f13d]

So basically I can wait until my team is ahead, then have the suicide kid I brought run onto the field and blow his brain out, right after spraying black oil ALL over the field. Causing a suspended game, and thus winning my bet!!!

Coooool......

[Larry]

:puke: I feel a little better now. Bet was a loser either way. Still bull **** though