UNOFFICIAL Steroid List

[CuseFan10]

Some that surprise me are Scott Schoenweis..


Where does baseball go from here?

Schoenweiss surprises you? He was caught red handed and it was discussed fully last year. He, of course, denied it like the blithering idiot he is.

Where does baseball go from here? Nowhere. Nothing happens to these guys. They are just screwed in the court of public opinion and outed as cheaters. Hopefully, baseball has an independent company start issuing the tests so there's no silly-stuff going on.

There's hundreds of players on HGH and undetectable stuff, and these guys just happen to have suppliers who go caught.

[NittanyLions94]

Schoenweiss surprises you? He was caught red handed and it was discussed fully last year. He, of course, denied it like the blithering idiot he is.

Where does baseball go from here? Nowhere. Nothing happens to these guys. They are just screwed in the court of public opinion and outed as cheaters. Hopefully, baseball has an independent company start issuing the tests so there's no silly-stuff going on.

There's hundreds of players on HGH and undetectable stuff, and these guys just happen to have suppliers who go caught.

To buy steroids straight from a pharmacy or big time dealer is the same as putting a sign on your chest. At least buy it off the internet and get it sent to a PO box and pay with cashier's checks or something at least harder to trace.

[CuseFan10]

To buy steroids straight from a pharmacy or big time dealer is the same as putting a sign on your chest. At least buy it off the internet and get it sent to a PO box and pay with cashier's checks or something at least harder to trace.

Two words:

CASH

FRIEND

These guys make MILLIONS of dollars, or at least the MLB minimum of like $362,000. Seems a couple good 'cycles' or 'stackings' cost at most $3200. Go to the bank. Take out $5000. Tell your friend or cousin to go drive wherever, find whoever, do it however, and get the **** via CASH and let him keep whatever is left over of the $5000. Not that hard a ******* plan. They obviously know how to get the **** via teammates so just send someone to go get it the so the supplier has no clue who you even are.

Idiots. How stupid are these people? I'm not gonna go buy weed, cocaine, shrooms, or buy roids, or pay my bookie via a check, so why would these idiots do it? Unreal.

[yomonte]

John Rocker.....its all coming together now LOL

[pitch21]

I didn't see Greg Vaughn or Luis Gonzalez on there..........those two I thought were locks

[dwd14]

Idiots. How stupid are these people? I'm not gonna go buy weed, cocaine, shrooms, or buy roids, or pay my bookie via a check, so why would these idiots do it? Unreal.

exactly

[wsox08]

Schoenweiss surprises you? He was caught red handed and it was discussed fully last year. He, of course, denied it like the blithering idiot he is.

Where does baseball go from here? Nowhere. Nothing happens to these guys. They are just screwed in the court of public opinion and outed as cheaters. Hopefully, baseball has an independent company start issuing the tests so there's no silly-stuff going on.

There's hundreds of players on HGH and undetectable stuff, and these guys just happen to have suppliers who go caught.

I was just saying it was surprising because he was never really good.. that's all.. I had no clue about issues with him.

[Bobo66]

What about Brady Anderson??? I thought for sure he was a slam dunk. I still think he is........I'm not sure what to think about this report. Need some days to mull this over...:conf:

[CuseFan10]

What about Brady Anderson??? I thought for sure he was a slam dunk. I still think he is........I'm not sure what to think about this report. Need some days to mull this over...:conf:

The simple answer to the "Why wasn't this guy on the list?" question is this... Because their supplier didn't get caught. Plain and simple. Radomski and McNammee got caught and the government squeezed them until they talked. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Radomskis and McNammee's out there in every city and in every rural area. The only people on this list are those "clients" of those two guys, plus people who bought from the pharmacy(s) that got busted, and the guys from BALCO.

That's it. It's clearly broken down into three groups via the report, and anyone not on the report just didn't fraternize with those situations/people.

[homedawg]

The simple answer to the "Why wasn't this guy on the list?" question is this... Because their supplier didn't get caught. Plain and simple. Radomski and McNammee got caught and the government squeezed them until they talked. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Radomskis and McNammee's out there in every city and in every rural area. The only people on this list are those "clients" of those two guys, plus people who bought from the pharmacy(s) that got busted, and the guys from BALCO.

That's it. It's clearly broken down into three groups via the report, and anyone not on the report just didn't fraternize with those situations/people.

:thumbs:

The following table lists all the players, 88 in total, linked to performance enhancing drugs in the Mitchell Report.



Summary and Recommendations (3)
Ryan Jorgenson Page SR-14 (22)
Mark McGwire Page SR-14 (22), 16 (64), 22 (70),
Ken Caminiti Page SR-14 (22), 51 (99)

IV. Early Indications of Steroid Use in Baseball (1988 to August 1998) (1)
Wally Joyner Page 73 (121)

V. Androstenedione and Baseball’s Broadening Awareness of the Use of Performance Enhancing Substances (1)
Derrick Turnbow Page 83 (131)

VI. Incidents Providing Evidence to Baseball Officials of Players’ Possession or Use of Performance Enhancing Substances (6)
Manny Alexander Page 91 (139)
Sammy Sosa* Page 85 (133)
Ricky Bones Page 92 (140)
Alex Cabrera Page 94 (142)
Rafael Palmeiro Page 103 (151)
Paxton Crawford Page 111 (159)

VII. Major League Baseball and the BALCO Investigation (8)
Marvin Benard Page 127 (175)
Barry Bonds Page 128 (176)
Bobby Estalella Page 130 (178)
Jason Giambi Page 131 (179)
Jeremy Giambi Page 133 (175)
Benito Santiago Page 134 (176)
Gary Sheffield Page 135 (177)
Randy Velarde Page 137 (179)

B. Information Regarding Purchases or Use of Performance Enhancing Substances by Players in Major League Baseball (54)
Lenny Dykstra Page 149 (197)
David Segui Page 150 (198)
Larry Bigbie Page 152 (200)
Brian Roberts Page 158 (206)
Jack Cust Page 159 (207)
Tim Laker Page 159 (207)
Josias Manzanillo Page 161 (209)
Todd Hundley Page 163 (211)
Mark Carreon Page 163 (211)
Hal Morris Page 164 (212)
Matt Franco Page 165 (213)
Rondell White Page 165 (213)
Roger Clemens Page 166 (214)
Andy Pettitte Page 175 (223)
Chuck Knobloch Page 175 (223)
Jason Grimsley Page 177 (225), 249 (297)
Gregg Zaun Page 179 (227)
David Justice Page 181 (229)
F.P. Santangelo Page 182 (230)
Glenallen Hill Page 183 (231)
Mo Vaughn Page 186 (234)
Denny Neagle Page 187 (235)
Ron Villone Page 188 (236)
Ryan Franklin Page 190 (238)
Chris Donnels Page 190 (238)
Todd Williams Page 194 (242)
Phil Hiatt Page 194 (242)
Todd Pratt Page 195 (243)
Kevin Young Page 195 (243)
Mike Lansing Page 196 (244)
Cody McKay Page 197 (245)
Kent Mercker Page 198 (246)
Adam Piatt Page 199 (247)
Miguel Tejada Page 201 (249)
Jason Christiansen Page 205 (253)
Mike Stanton Page 205 (253)
Stephen Randolph Page 206 (254)
Jerry Hairston, Jr. Page 207 (255)
Paul Lo Duca Page 208 (256)
Adam Riggs Page 211 (259)
Bart Miadich Page 212 (260)
Fernando Vina Page 213 (261)
Kevin Brown Page 214 (262)
Eric Gagne Page 217 (265)
Mike Bell Page 219 (267)
Matt Herges Page 221 (269)
Gary Bennett, Jr. Page 222 (270)
Jim Parque Page 223 (271)
Brendan Donnelly Page 224 (272)
Chad Allen Page 225 (273)
Jeff Williams Page 227 (275)
Howie Clark Page 228 (276)
Nook Logan Page 229 (277)
Dan Naulty Page 232 (280)

IX. The Threat Posed By Internet Sales of Steroids and Human Growth Hormone (15)
Rick Ankiel Page 243 (291)
David Bell Page 244 (292)
Paul Byrd Page 245 (293)
Jose Canseco Page 246 (294)
Jay Gibbons Page 247 (295)
Troy Glaus Page 248 (296)
Jose Guillen Page 249 (297)
Jerry Hairston, Jr. Page 251 (299)
Darren Holmes Page 251 (299)
Gary Matthews, Jr. Page 252 (300)
John Rocker Page 254 (302)
Scott Schoenweis Page 254 (302)
Ismael Valdez Page 255 (303)
Matt Williams Page 255 (302)
Steve Woodard Page 257 (304)

[CuseFan10]

Yup HD. Some of that is a little misleading though when you group it as such. But the meat and potatoes of it is dead on :thumbs:

The Andro group, along with McGwire and Sosa and such were not "suspects" in this report and the big list could easily be renamed "The Radomski/McNammee Group."