Week October 11-17 Discussion

[Daws1089]

Maybe a stab at the Army ml is worth a shot? Rutgers is playing their 4th home game in a row which is weird, but they lost the first two home games to UNC and TULANE and then beat UCONN last week. I can see a let down from them as I'm just not sold on them being a solid team especially after seeing what they've done at home over the last few weeks. ARMY does have revenge after last year's beatdown, which doesn't hurt to have on your side if you are gonna take a stab at the money line. Not playing this for sure yet, but could be worth looking at. ARMY can put up pts too, something that I'm not sure RUTGERS can do easily.

[BUNK MORELAND]

Maybe a stab at the Army ml is worth a shot? Rutgers is playing their 4th home game in a row which is weird, but they lost the first two home games to UNC and TULANE and then beat UCONN last week. I can see a let down from them as I'm just not sold on them being a solid team especially after seeing what they've done at home over the last few weeks. ARMY does have revenge after last year's beatdown, which doesn't hurt to have on your side if you are gonna take a stab at the money line. Not playing this for sure yet, but could be worth looking at. ARMY can put up pts too, something that I'm not sure RUTGERS can do easily.

I like that play ( army +7 ) ...

They have been great on the road and competitive in the games they lost . I don't understand this game. Army is on the rise!!! Fade the big east !!! I like Army in this game to give Rutgers a look that they are not used to seeing . Army has 5 players who average 4 yards a carry and who have carried the ball atleast 25 times this year. You would think if Army got down early they would be in trouble since they can't pass. However they trailed Hawaii 21-0 earlier this season and came back in that game only to lose on a last minute field goal

I'm thinking teaser with Army , looking for a team to play them with in a teaser

[BUNK MORELAND]

TOP ATS teams

Utah 4-0-1
Ohio State 5-1-0
Florida State 5-1-0
North Carolina State 5-1-0
Hawaii 5-1-0
Boise State 4-1-0
Oklahoma State 4-1-0
Syracuse 4-1-0
California 4-1-0
Central Florida 4-1-0
Idaho 4-1-0
Illinois 4-1-0
North Carolina 4-1-0
San Diego State 4-1-0
Arizona State 4-1-1
Oregon State 3-1-1
Michigan State 4-2-0
Oregon 4-2-0
Alabama 4-2-0
Northern Illinois 4-2-0
Temple 4-2-0
Virginia Tech 4-2-0
Kentucky 4-2-0
Ohio 4-2-0

Central Florida has been playing very well since the loss to NC ST in week 2. They made a late rally to get back in that game against WOLFPACK and have been playing very well ever since. They are coming off a dominating win over UAB. Marshall going in the other direction after getting hammered against Southern Miss. Marshall is coming off a bye week. Central Florida has owned the first quarter of ball games this year outscoring opponents 31-7 in the first period and they have owned the 4th quarter this year outscoring opponents 55-14 ... You got to love a team who gets off to good starts and owns the fourth quarter . Lean Central Florida

ARKANSAS STATE at INDIANA

this could be a shootout , they both score alot of points and they both give up lots of points . Arkansas State is worth a look in this one as they have a good qb and a hand full of players who can make big plays . Lean Ark St . and over in this ball game

[FlyersFan]

I'm thinking teaser with Army , looking for a team to play them with in a teaser

How about your SYR/PIT game under?.....HAW with an extra TD would be nice IMO. Grabbing 14-15 with HAW....:thumbs:......also think that you could stick an extra TD on OKST grabbing 10.5 and be good to go....I don't know as TacoTech can beat anyone by DD with that defense, especially a potent offense like OKST. ARK +11 is another good teaser line as AUB doesn't have the defense to beat a good offensive team like ARK by DD.

[FlyersFan]

The more I look @ this game the more I am looking at the CAL side......USC is garbage this year. They are undisciplined penatly wise and they can't stop anyone. CAL isn't any great shakes but they do have a much stingier defense. USC losers of 2 in a row and if you think they're reeling then CAL is a solid play. Line is up to 3 1/2 in some places. Wish i had a better read on CAL and the 1 thing i don't like about CAL is that I don't remember the last time they played a game like this and didn't implode.

[ChicagoEmpire]

Why? Illinois is actually playing defense this year and its not like Msu typically blows teams out. I think the game is competitive.

I'm a little pissed about not getting A&M at -3. Can't say I feel comfortable with the hook. Week still looks dead to me, top plays still Arky, Arky ML and Iowa.

Dude they've only played Ohio St. and that was at home. The other teams they've played are trash. Didn't they give up about 30 to Mizzou? I don't get all the love for UI this year... before the season started, they were predicted to be trash.

[logansq]

Good luck FF:thumbs:
Like your call on the Iowa/Mich game.
I think iowa shows up and mich hits a wall. tough two weeks for richrod

[hodown]

Dude they've only played Ohio St. and that was at home. The other teams they've played are trash. Didn't they give up about 30 to Mizzou? I don't get all the love for UI this year... before the season started, they were predicted to be trash.

And who exactly has msu played? An overhyped Michigan squad? Western Michigan, Florida Atlantic, nd, northern Colorado, and Wisconsin. I backed them against Wisconsin and Michigan. They may cover but it's not exactly a great spot or unjustified line.

Illinois as up 13-3 on mizzou at half and lost 23-13. Respectable showing. Beating psu by 20 in happy valley is no easy feat either. And you mention psu being down, but what does that matter?

[joepa66]

Ohio -16.5 should destroy Akron this week! The Zips lost last week at Kent 28-17, had 5 turnovers (two for TDs as Kent recovered a fumble in the endzone and ran an INT back 11 yards for another), and had just 62 yards rushing, and 133 yards passing which didn't break the 200 yard of total offense mark. The Bobcats destroyed BGSU last week 49-25 in Athens and ran thru the Falcons D for 231 yards on the ground. Akron is last in MAC scoring offense at 16.8ppg, 11th in scoring defense giving up 37.5ppg, 12th in passing offense at 136ypg, last in passing defense at 265.5ypg, 9th in rushing offense at 116ypg, 11th in defense giving up 429ypg, and 13th in total offense gaining just 242ypg. The Bobcats are 4th in total defense, 5th in scoring defense and 5th in total offense in the MAC. OU is also 1st in Red Zone Offense scoring on 17 of 19 chances for 89.5% conversion rate, while Akron is LAST in Red Zone Defense giving up scores on 93% of their opponents opportunities or on 25 of 27 attempts.


Toledo -3 is a great consideration this week also. Night games in the Glass Bowl are tough, and the Rockets got bounced by Boise on the Smurf Turf last week committing 5 TOs. UT outgained Wyoming two weeks ago at home 374-266 and lost 20-15, and they do have three road wins on the season winning at Ohio, Purdue and Western Michigan. They could easily be 4-2 on the season instead of 3-3 with losses at Arizona, Boise and home vs. Wyoming. Kent is a team that has a good defense but their offense is pitiful. Last week against cellar dweller Akron, I love saying that, Kent managed just 75 passing yard and 261 yards of total offense and even though they were beneficiaries of 5 Akron TOs they got a late defensive TD to seal the win. Kent State (2-3, 1-1 MAC) ranks No. 1 in total defense in the league (284.2 yards per game) and No. 1 in the country in rushing defense (59.6). The Golden Flashes have the No. 1 scoring defense (20.8 points) and the No. 1 overall defense (284.2 yards per game) in the MAC, not to mention the No. 1 rushing defense in the country (59.6). Senior linebacker Cobrani Mixon leads the team and is fourth in the MAC with 48 tackles, while freshman defensive lineman Roosevelt Nix leads the MAC with 6.5 sacks. The offense is another story......which is ranked 12th in Total Offense (11th in rushing at 81ypg, and 7th in passing).
The KSU game is one of four home games left for UT so the Rockets have a chance to put themselves in a very favorable position with a win. Toledo ranks No. 3 in rushing defense (114.0) and tied for second with 14 sacks. The health of their offense this week lies with QB Austin Dantin who left the Boise State game early in the fourth quarter with a possible concussion and neck strain. Dantin finished the game 13-of-18 for 167 yards. He ranks 8th in Total Offense with 184 yard rushing and 830 yards passing and 66% completions, is very elusive and knows how to avoid the rush which is probably his most valuable asset. His status for the Kent State game has not been determined. Redshirt freshman QB Terrance Owens split time with Dantin vs. Boise, entering the game for the first time in Toledo's third possession of the first quarter. He finished the game 8-of-11 for 55 yards. A healthy Dantin is key for the Rockets.

[Underdog88]

And who exactly has msu played? An overhyped Michigan squad? Western Michigan, Florida Atlantic, nd, northern Colorado, and Wisconsin. I backed them against Wisconsin and Michigan. They may cover but it's not exactly a great spot or unjustified line.

Illinois as up 13-3 on mizzou at half and lost 23-13. Respectable showing. Beating psu by 20 in happy valley is no easy feat either. And you mention psu being down, but what does that matter?

I agree. I just don't see MSU blowing out Illinois here

[FlyersFan]

I agree. I just don't see MSU blowing out Illinois here

I just think it's a tough game to pick and there are better options on the board IMO.....line to me is pretty close.

[irishmike]

We have the chart!
We use the chart w/ the kids on Sunday!!!

There's a point in the game when you throw the chart a way and show class!

Really hope the Bucks are up on Wisky, and St. Jim takes a knee late, shows Bielema how it's done!

Go Bucks!

[Q-Unit]

its fishy on both ends!

Kentucky was a fishy line last week against Auburn, but they almost won that game.

So I think that is reflected here + the books either expecting everyone to eat this tasty line after SC took out Bama, when there's a letdown factor.

I took Kentucky again, hope that home dog barks again. If their O neutralizes SC's stout D, they could keep it close.

there you go FF lol

Bigbag or anyone with intimate knowledge/thoughts of the Mizzou/Aggies matchup care to chime in?

[FlyersFan]

there you go FF lol

:beerbang:...i was hall monitor in elemtry school.....gift that keeps on giving....:beerbang:

[FlyersFan]

anyone else besides moi riding the Looweyville train tonight??