Probable BCS Teams

[JayCol]

AP is out....

OSU
LSU

Chance for redemption for OSU... to beat the SEC champs after getting hammered by Florida... win or lose, one thing you can be sure is that Tressel will have the team ready.

JC

[wsox08]

AP is out....

OSU
LSU
OKLA
UGA
VTECH
USC.........

wsox- i really can't believe that the Rose Bowl would take a 3 loss T2nd place big10 team over UGA with the first pick of them all.....i really think you are Capital One bound.....

The Rose Bowl might want a Big Ten team for tradition. I'm not sure what to think right now.

[Nigel Tufnel]

I just heard Jerry Palm on 700 WLW here in the Nati....the host asked about the Rose Bowl looking at UGA....Palm said, and I quote, "I will literally drop dead if the Rose Bowl takes Georgia. If that happens, then there really is no reason not to have a playoff system." He explained that the Rose Bowl is one of the reasons a playoff won't happen because they want to keep the tradition in place. He said that if a Big 10 team is available to the Rose Bowl, they will take them.

Hope that makes you feel better, wsox.

[wsox08]

I just heard Jerry Palm on 700 WLW here in the Nati....the host asked about the Rose Bowl looking at UGA....Palm said, and I quote, "I will literally drop dead if the Rose Bowl takes Georgia. If that happens, then there really is no reason not to have a playoff system." He explained that the Rose Bowl is one of the reasons a playoff won't happen because they want to keep the tradition in place. He said that if a Big 10 team is available to the Rose Bowl, they will take them.

Hope that makes you feel better, wsox.

That's what I'm thinking. The Rose Bowl will want the tradition of Pac Ten v. Big Ten. That news doesn't hurt, Nigel. :sm: Thanks.

[FlyersFan]

USA today is out......same as the AP....it's going to be OSU/LSU now....pretty much a done deal it looks like.......

[Irish Sooner]

I have heard as long as its OSU/LSU in the NCG it will shake out like this:

Fiesta: OU vs W.Virginia
Orange: Kansas vs V.Tech
Rose: USC vs Illinois
Sugar: Georgia vs Hawaii

[Stifler's Mom]

I still think any attempt at a NCG this year has absolutely no merit what-so-ever. I'll enjoy watching the games, but to crown anyone a national champion when the other 8 teams involved (ok, well maybe not Hawaii)....so other 7 teams involved don't get a chance, just holds no water with me.

Nothing like 2 teams sliding in the back door to "earn" the right to play for a national championship :laughing:

[FlyersFan]

I still think any attempt at a NCG this year has absolutely no merit what-so-ever. I'll enjoy watching the games, but to crown anyone a national champion when the other 8 teams involved (ok, well maybe not Hawaii)....so other 7 teams involved don't get a chance, just holds no water with me.

Nothing like 2 teams sliding in the back door to "earn" the right to play for a national championship :laughing:

yeah, and even as an OSU'er i feel the same way. But i don't want to hear OSU doesn't deserve to be there for the next 6 weeks. And i don't really feel OSU "slid in the back door" either. The big10 doesn't extend their season 223 weeks for TV purposes so they were done 2 weeks ago.....same time everybody else used to be done before they all sold out for TV and money. But i do agree with you. I will also tell you it takes a lot of the fun out of the game when you have to listen to people bitch about OSU not deserving to be there. I also think it's unfortunate that whoever wins this year is going to have to hear for a long time that (1) they shouldn't have been there, (2) it's not a real championship, (3) it's a hollow title.....it really takes away from the fun for that school.

I find it funny how over the last 10 years, we are all of a sudden so concerned over who wins the National Title. Nobody really used to care about it, but then the media machine got everyone going. Heck, 10 years ago it was all about the Rose Bowl, Sugar Bowl, SEC championship game, Orange Bowl whatever.......i dunno

Bottom line, there were no dominant teams this year.

[Larry]

That's what I'm thinking. The Rose Bowl will want the tradition of Pac Ten v. Big Ten. That news doesn't hurt, Nigel. :sm: Thanks.

If that happens then Michigan should move up to the captial one bowl to face Florida, correct?

[FlyersFan]

If that happens then Michigan should move up to the captial one bowl to face Florida, correct?

:thumbs:

[Stifler's Mom]

I don't think any of the teams really belong there.

I could make an argument for Oklahoma using the current system, but why bother?

The truth is they lost to ****ty Colorado and then to Texas Tech. If they beat COL, they're probably #1 right now after the beating they put on Mizzou last night, even with the TTU loss.....but they didn't, and it cost em.

My gripe with the whole thing however, is that what did anyone else do that was any more deserving?

Losing to COL looks bad, but LSU lost to Kentucky for Pete's sake....who is not a real good team either, as evidenced by their 2-5 finish to the season.

But the voters put LSU ahead of Oklahoma. Why? LSU has been FAR from dominant against ANYONE who is even half decent since their thrashing of VA Tech in September sometime, and they have the same amount of losses as Oklahoma does.

In my personal opinion, the best 2 teams in the country are USC and Oklahoma....but that and 2 bucks will get me a bottle of beer at the corner dive bar, lol.

I also feel that IF and that's a big IF, Hawaii manages to beat whoever they end up playing (which I realize they probably won't), then how are they NOT the national champion....by virtue of going undefeated and then proving they can beat another BCS team. A BCS team (whoever it is) that cannot possibly be determined to be any worse than the 2 that actually get to play for it.

I dunno....it's all just a joke, and does nothing that prove why some sort of 4 or 8 team playoff is necessary.

[FlyersFan]

Very good article that about sums it up from the Columbus Dispatch



Sunday, December 2, 2007 7:29 AM
By Bob Hunter

Watching Pittsburgh beat No. 2 West Virginia last night, some firebug probably struggled with the urge to drag a couch into the street and start an impromptu celebration that Ohio State fans were once famous for.

Or maybe not. It was a dreamy fall night for Buckeyes fans, a night to celebrate their almost-certain appearance in a second consecutive national championship game.

But there was something about it that just didn't seem right.

This wasn't a touchdown pass in the final minute to beat Michigan. It wasn't a sack of a Penn State quarterback when the game was on the line. This was more like, well, finding another beer in the fridge that you didn't know was there when the game you were watching went to overtime.

The third-ranked Buckeyes likely landed a spot in the title game by sitting around like so many couch potatoes, watching Mountaineers quarterback Pat White suffer a dislocated thumb and go to the sideline, watching Pitt gain confidence as No. 2 West Virginia played like No. 200, watching the Mountaineers go down and clear a spot for the Buckeyes to move into the top two.

And if there were any lingering doubts, well, Oklahoma's 38-17 pasting of No. 1 Missouri in the Big 12 championship game should have erased them.

But even for Buckeyes players, this couldn't have been a true moment of jubilation. This was a weird dynamic, watching, watching, watching, hoping that when White re-entered the game in the fourth quarter that he couldn't bring the Mountaineers back from a 13-7 deficit. Watching favored Oklahoma go ahead of Missouri, then win going away.

So who's really No. 1?

Truthfully, nobody. By now, that should be obvious.

It's nice that Ohio State will get a chance to avenge an embarrassing 41-14 loss to Florida in last year's title game, and it's especially nice that they aren't going to be the unlucky one-loss team that was the victim by a flawed process in the Bowl Championship Series.

But let's be honest: If we seriously think that the national championship game is going to match the real No. 1 and No. 2 teams, we probably are kidding ourselves. We can't even be sure whom Ohio State will play in the game.

Georgia? Louisiana State? Kansas? Virginia Tech? Southern California? If you pick one, what about the others?

Somebody has to win the national championship. But whoever it is, there's a good chance it's not going to be the best team in the country. This is one of those years when you might write down a dozen names on slips of paper and draw the participants for the title game out of a hat.

It's clear now that the Buckeyes deserve a spot just as much, if not more, than anybody. But what if both Missouri and West Virginia had won and Ohio State had remained stuck at No. 3? There would have been no way to make sense of one-loss Ohio State being out and one-loss West Virginia and Missouri being in, any more than if OSU were in and one of the other two were out.

Ohio State is in the clear now, but how does it make sense that one-loss Kansas probably is out of it? Or unbeaten Hawaii, if the Rainbows managed to win their late game last night?

In a season in which the strength of every team has been called into question, when the fight for No. 1 seemed more like a game of hot potato than football, why wouldn't Western Athletic Conference champion Hawaii have a legitimate beef? Didn't WAC champion Boise State beat Oklahoma -- in the Fiesta Bowl last January?

Some years, there is a consensus No. 1 vs. No. 2 and the BCS seems to work. This is one of those years that screams for an eight-team playoff so that the best team at the end of the season can win it on the field.

Or maybe not.

This year, picking eight teams might be just as hard as picking two.

Bob Hunter is a sports columnist for The Dispatch.

[yukoncornelius]

I have heard as long as its OSU/LSU in the NCG it will shake out like this:

Fiesta: OU vs W.Virginia
Orange: Kansas vs V.Tech
Rose: USC vs Illinois
Sugar: Georgia vs Hawaii

I really don't like those matchups... Having Georgia in the national title game would create better matchups.


Ou will beat w virginia, kansas/vt will be really good. USC should stomp a hole in Illinois. Georgia should annihilate Hawaii.

[wsox08]

I really don't like those matchups... Having Georgia in the national title game would create better matchups.


Ou will beat w virginia, kansas/vt will be really good. USC should stomp a hole in Illinois. Georgia should annihilate Hawaii.

I will definitely agree with USC beating up on the Illini.


There were so many situations this year where top teams lost to inferior teams. If they would have defeated that team then they would be playing for the title. I think OU and USC are the two best teams but they are not playing for the title.

If OU beats Colorado/TT then they are in the title game
If USC just beat Stanford then they'd be in the title game

but this year just gives me more reason to think that there should be a playoff system IMMEDIATELY.

[FlyersFan]

If OU beats Colorado/TT then they are in the title game
If USC just beat Stanford then they'd be in the title game

but this year just gives me more reason to think that there should be a playoff system IMMEDIATELY.

if OSU doesn't lose to ILL at home in their absolute worst game in probably 3 years, they are undefeated. You can't say IF, IF, IF.....doesn't work that way and that's why they play the games....

just be glad it all happened so your ILLINI can get a back door rose bowl berth......:beer2: