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  • homedawg
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    Conservatives Say McCain Should Slam Obama for His Relationship With Wright

    John McCain, trailing in national and most swing-state polls, is being urged by conservatives to attack Barack Obama over his relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright in Wednesday night's final presidential debate.

    FOXNews.com

    Wednesday, October 15, 2008



    Conservatives are urging John McCain to go for the jugular in the final presidential debate Wednesday night and attack Barack Obama for his relationship with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

    "The Jeremiah Wright issue is a perfectly legitimate issue," syndicated columnist Charles Krauthammer told FOX News. "Jeremiah Wright is not a casual acquaintance. He's a guy that Obama has told us about in his books. He was a very important influence on his adult life, probably the most important influence on him after his wife. And we know what kind of man Wright is and what he believes."

    Wright, a fiery pastor who established one of the most powerful churches in Chicago until his retirement earlier this year, is credited by Obama for bringing him back to his Christian roots. But the Democratic candidate left Trinity United Church of Christ after 20 years in the spring after videotapes surfaced showing Wright's angry and provocative criticism of America's foreign policy and its history of oppressing minorities.

    McCain and running mate Sarah Palin have gone after Obama in recent weeks for his association with former domestic terrorist William Ayers, accusing Obama of lying about their true relationship in ads and at rallies. McCain has softened that attack on the campaign trail in recent days, though not in his TV and radio ads.

    Obama and McCain plan to lay out their vision for the country and promote their economic policies in Wednesday night's debate, which will air at 9 p.m. ET on all major broadcast and cable news networks. But McCain, who is trailing in the national polls as well as in most of the critical swing states, is expected to unleash character attacks on his opponent after both Obama and running mate Joe Biden challenged him to "say it to my face."

    McCain's top advisers and Palin believe he should attack Obama over Wright. But McCain is said to fear being painted as a racist if he does.

    "It's a completely unfounded charge," Krauthammer said, "but McCain has flinched."

    Democratic strategist Paul Maslin said it's "ludicrous" for conservatives to push McCain to attack Obama on his relationship with Wright.

    "We've had a virtual meltdown of our economy and they think he's going to make up ground in the polls by going after Jeremiah Wright or Bill Ayers," Maslin said. "It's preposterous."

    Conservative commentator Tucker Carlson said he envisions a McCain ad featuring Wright's most inflammatory statements:

    "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme," Wright railed in one of his sermons.

    "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. ... America's chickens are coming home to roost," Wright once said.

    Carlson said the narrator in his imaginary ad would then state, "For 20 years, Barack Obama sat in the pews, even brought his family, as Wright preached hate. Obama never said a word, until he was caught. Then he defended Wright. Barack Obama: Divisive. Dishonest. Dangerous."

    Three conservative Californians also have created an ad featuring Wright that declares, "Barack Obama seems to have different values from most Americans." It's unknown, though, how widely the ad, which is not approved by the McCain campaign, will air.

    Maslin said he doesn't believe McCain will raise Wright at all, adding that such an attack would backfire and put more Republican congressional seats in jeopardy in next month's election.

    "John McCain at some point has to realize his legacy is at stake here," Maslin said. He said McCain would return to the Senate humiliated if he tried to mollify the right wing of the party with the character attacks

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    • homedawg
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      Obamalies


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      • homedawg
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        Fox is suckin' on Obama's Dick!
        Fox is not broadcasting the debate? :puke:

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        • homedawg
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          • Feb 2007
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          Final debate recap:

          Obama=Puppet

          McCain=Straight talk

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          • Q-Unit
            Offensive Coordinator
            • Feb 2007
            • 5180

            Originally posted by homedawg
            Fox is suckin' on Obama's Dick!
            Fox is not broadcasting the debate? :puke:
            $ over politics lol at least in this case.

            in a struggling economy, Fox chose to air MLB Playoffs rather than the debate I'm guessing
            :hide:

            "Schooly D is fat cake yo."
            -Big Pimpin-

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            • homedawg
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              • Feb 2007
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              Originally posted by Q-Unit
              $ over politics lol at least in this case.

              in a struggling economy, Fox chose to air MLB Playoffs rather than the debate I'm guessing

              America’s pastime over future of America? Fox is content with the current polls, so watch baseball and enjoy Jimmy Carter's 2nd term!

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              • homedawg
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                • Feb 2007
                • 7689

                Let Freedom Ring / neverfindout.org


                Balloon

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                Left of everyone

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                One


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                Punished with a Baby


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                Part of the problem

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                Income Tax

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                Energy


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                Earmarks

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                Middle Class

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                Chicken Button


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                Trust

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                Nice Try, Senator


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                • coreyschucky
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                  • Mar 2007
                  • 2058

                  Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.

                  545 PEOPLE
                  By Charlie Reese

                  Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
                  Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?
                  Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

                  You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

                  You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
                  You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

                  You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

                  You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

                  One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

                  I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913,
                  Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

                  I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
                  Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault.
                  They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

                  What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have
                  the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

                  The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over
                  his veto if they agree to.

                  It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted - by present facts -
                  of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must
                  follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

                  If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

                  If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

                  If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ .
                  If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it
                  that way.

                  There are no insoluble government problems.

                  Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists,
                  whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take
                  this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

                  Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

                  They, and they alone, have the power.

                  They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses provided the voters have the gumption
                  to manage their own employees.

                  We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!

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                  • coreyschucky
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 2058

                    CHECK THE FACTS:

                    OBAMA: Said that if families get a $5,000 tax credit for buying health insurance and the insurance then costs $12,000, that's a loss for them.
                    THE FACTS: The tax credit offered by McCain is more generous for the vast majority of people than the current tax break, which they would lose, according to the Tax Policy Center. Now, people don't pay taxes on the health benefits they get from work. Obama's statement gives the impression that $5,000 is all that workers will be getting to help them pay for a health plan, but that's just what the federal government will provide. Economists say most employers would still contribute to their workers' health insurance. The Lewin Group, a health care consulting firm, found that by taxing health benefits but providing a tax credit, the average family would come out $1,411 ahead.
                    ___
                    McCAIN: "We have to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much."
                    THE FACTS: This is a reference to U.S. spending on oil imports. McCain has repeatedly made this claim. But the figure is highly inflated and misleading. According to government agencies that track energy imports, the United States spent $246 billion in 2007 for all imported crude oil, a majority of it coming from friendly nations including neighboring Canada and Mexico. An additional $82 billion was spent on imported refined petroleum products such as gasoline, diesel and fuel oil. A majority of the refined products come from refineries in such friendly countries as the Netherlands, Canada, the United Kingdom, Trinidad-Tobago and the Virgin Islands.
                    ___
                    OBAMA: "One hundred percent, John, of your ads — 100 percent of them — have been negative."
                    THE FACTS: The statement is mostly true when it comes to McCain's current commercial spots. But by saying McCain's ads "have been" 100 percent negative, Obama ventures into misleading territory. A recent study by the Wisconsin Advertising Project at the University of Wisconsin-Madison found that in the first week of October "nearly 100 percent" of McCain's ads were negative. The study also reported, however, that to date 73 percent of McCain's ads have been negative and that 61 percent of Obama's ads have been negative.
                    ___
                    McCAIN: "Sen. Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money in negative attack ads on me."
                    THE FACTS: Obama is spending unprecedented amounts of money on ads, period — negative or otherwise. Obama is outspending McCain and the Republican Party by more than 2-to-1 in presidential ads. At one point in August, 90 percent of the ads Obama was airing were against McCain. The study by the Wisconsin Advertising Project found that about 34 percent of Obama's ads are now negative.
                    ___
                    McCAIN: Said of Obama's running mate Sen. Joe Biden: "He had this cockamamie idea of dividing Iraq into three countries."
                    THE FACTS: Biden actually proposed dividing Iraq into three semiautonomous regions, not separate countries. He was a prime sponsor of a nonbinding Senate resolution that called for Iraq to have federal regions under the control of Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis in a power-sharing agreement similar to the one that ended the 1990s war in Bosnia.
                    ___
                    OBAMA: Said he would be "completely supportive" of late-term abortion restrictions "as long as there's an exception for the mother's health and life."
                    THE FACTS: Obama leaves himself a lot of latitude in this answer. A woman's "health" has been so broadly interpreted that it can include conditions, including psychological conditions, that are difficult to diagnose or prove. Anti-abortion advocates say that makes the ban meaningless, because it leaves too much subjective judgment in the equation.
                    ___
                    MCCAIN: "Sen. Obama, as a member of the Illinois state Senate, voted in the Judiciary Committee against a law that would provide immediate medical attention to a child born in a failed abortion. He voted against that."
                    OBAMA: "If it sounds incredible that I would vote to withhold lifesaving treatment from an infant, that's because it's not true."
                    THE FACTS: As a state senator, Obama opposed three legislative efforts, in 2001, 2002 and 2003, to give legal protections to any aborted fetus that showed signs of life. The 2003 measure was virtually identical to a bill President Bush signed into law in 2002 — a bill that passed before Obama was in the U.S. Senate, but one that Obama said he would have supported. The state of Illinois already had a law to protect aborted fetuses born alive and considered able to survive. Among those opposed to the state effort was the Illinois State Medical Society, which argued that the bill would interfere with the doctor-patient relationship and expand civil liability for doctors. Critics said the proposed legislation would have undermined the landmark Supreme Court case on abortion, Roe v. Wade, in ways the federal law would not.
                    ___
                    McCAIN: "Senator Obama talks about voting for budgets. He voted twice for a budget resolution that increases the taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year."
                    THE FACTS: The vote was on a nonbinding resolution and did not increase taxes. The resolution assumed that President Bush's tax cuts would expire, as scheduled, in 2011. If that actually happened, it could mean higher taxes for people making as little as about $42,000.
                    ___
                    OBAMA: "We can cut the average family's premium by $2,500 a year."
                    THE FACTS: If that sounds like a straight-ahead promise to lower health insurance premiums, it isn't. Obama hopes that by spending $50 billion over five years on electronic medical records and by improving access to proven disease management programs, among other steps, consumers will end up saving money. He uses an optimistic analysis to suggest cost reductions in national health care spending could amount to the equivalent of $2,500 for a family of four. Many economists are skeptical those savings can be achieved, but even if they are, it's not a certainty that every dollar would be passed on to consumers in the form of lower premiums.
                    ___
                    McCAIN: "Vouchers, where they are requested and where they are agreed to, are a good and workable system, and it's been proven."
                    THE FACTS: McCain's education plan proposes more private-school vouchers for only one jurisdiction: Washington, D.C. It's unclear whether the four-year-old Washington program is actually working. So far, the Education Department has found little if any difference in the test scores of kids who got vouchers to attend private school.
                    ___
                    McCAIN: "We can eliminate our dependence on foreign oil by building 45 nuclear power plants right away."
                    THE FACTS: For nuclear power to lower oil dependency would require a massive shift to electric or hybrid-electric cars, with nuclear power providing the electricity. No new U.S. nuclear reactor has been built since the 1970s. Although 15 utilities have filed applications to build 24 new reactors, none is expected to be built before 2015 at the earliest. Turmoil in the credit markets could force cancellation of some of the projects now planned, much less spur construction of 45 new reactors, as reactor costs have soared to about $9 billion apiece.

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                    • coreyschucky
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 2058

                      FactChecking Debate No. 3
                      October 16, 2008
                      Sorting out fact and fiction in the presidential candidates' final debate.
                      Summary
                      Spin and hype were apparent, once again, at the third and final debate between McCain and Obama:

                      * McCain claimed the liberal group ACORN “is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history ... maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.” In fact, a Republican prosecutor said of the first and biggest ACORN fraud case: “[T]his scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting.” He said $8-an-hour workers turned in made-up voter registration forms rather than doing what ACORN paid them to do.

                      * McCain said “Joe the plumber” faced “much higher taxes” under Obama’s tax plan and would pay a fine under Obama’s health care plan if he failed to provide coverage for his workers. But Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher would pay higher taxes only if the business he says he wants to buy puts his income over $200,000 a year, and his small business would be exempt from Obama’s requirement to provide coverage for workers.

                      * Obama repeated a dubious claim that his health care plan will cut the average family’s premiums by $2,500 a year. Experts have found that figure to be overly optimistic.

                      * McCain claimed that Obama’s real “object” is a government-run, single-payer health insurance system like those in Canada or England. The McCain campaign points to a quote from five years ago, when Obama told a labor gathering that he was “a proponent of a single-payer health care program.” But Obama has since qualified his enthusiasm for Canadian-style health care, and his current proposal is nothing like that.

                      * Obama incorrectly claimed all of McCain’s ads had been “negative.” That was true for one recent week, but not over the entire campaign. And at times Obama has run a higher percentage of attack ads than McCain.

                      * McCain described Colombia as the "largest agricultural importer of our products." Actually, Canada imports the most U.S. farm products, and Colombia is far down the list.

                      * Obama strained to portray himself as willing to break ranks with fellow Democrats. His prime example was his vote for a bill that was supported by 18 Democrats and opposed by 26. Congressional Quarterly rates him as voting with his party 97 percent of the time since becoming a U.S. senator.

                      For details on these and other misleading claims, please read on to the Analysis section.
                      Analysis
                      Sens. John McCain and Barack Obama met for their final debate Oct. 15. The face-to-face was held at Hofstra University in Hempstead, N.Y., and was moderated by CBS News' Bob Schieffer.

                      ACORN and Vote Fraud

                      McCain made some dire claims about a liberal group he said was out to steal the election:

                      McCain: We need to know the full extent of Sen. Obama's relationship with ACORN, who is now on the verge of maybe perpetrating one of the greatest frauds in voter history in this country, maybe destroying the fabric of democracy.

                      It's true that the voter registration wing of the Association of Community Organizers for Reform Now has run into trouble in several states. ACORN employees have been investigated and in some cases indicted for voter registration fraud. Most recently, more than 2,000 registrations in Lake County, Ind., have turned out to be falsified.

                      But does this constitute "destroying the fabric of democracy"? More like destroying the fabric of work ethic. There's been no evidence that the ACORN employees who submitted fraudulent forms have been paving the way for illegal voting. Rather, they're trying to get paid for doing no work.

                      Dan Satterberg, the Republican prosecuting attorney in King County, Wash., where the first ACORN case was prosecuted, said:

                      Satterberg: [A] joint federal and state investigation has determined that this
                      scheme was not intended to permit illegal voting.

                      Instead, the defendants cheated their employer. ... It was hardly a sophisticated plan: The defendants simply realized that making up names was easier than actually canvassing the streets looking for unregistered voters. ...

                      [It] appears that the employees of ACORN were not performing the work that they were being paid for, and to some extent, ACORN is a victim of employee theft.

                      The $8-an-hour employees were charged with providing false information on a voter registration, and in one case with making a false statement to a public official. ACORN was fined for showing insufficient oversight, but it was not charged with masterminding any kind of fraud.

                      Meanwhile, on the other side of the table, Obama wasn't entirely forthcoming about his relationship with ACORN:

                      Obama: The only involvement I've had with ACORN is, I represented them alongside the U.S. Justice Department in making Illinois implement a motor voter law that helped people get registered at DMVs.

                      He did, but that wasn't his only involvement. He also worked closely with ACORN's Chicago office when he ran a Project Vote registration drive after law school, and Obama did some leadership training for Chicago ACORN. The Woods Fund, where Obama served as a board member, gave grants to ACORN's Chicago branch; both organizations are concerned with disadvantaged populations in that city. And during the primaries of this election, Obama's campaign paid upwards of $800,000 to the ACORN-affiliated Campaign Services Inc. for get-out-the-vote efforts (not voter registration). Those services were initially misrepresented on the campaign's Federal Election Commission reports, an error that some find suspicious and others say is par for the course. ACORN's Chicago office and CSI have not been under investigation.

                      For more on investigations of ACORN and registration fraud, and Obama's involvement with the group, keep an eye on our home page. A longer article on ACORN is in the works.
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                      • coreyschucky
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 2058

                        Joe the Plumber

                        Ohio plumber Joe Wurzelbacher got a lot of airtime.

                        McCain first mentioned Joe by saying:

                        McCain: Joe wants to buy the business that he has been in for all of these years, worked 10, 12 hours a day. And he wanted to buy the business but he looked at your tax plan and he saw that he was going to pay much higher taxes.

                        Joe’s newfound fame stems from an impromptu encounter Oct. 12, during which Wurzelbacher questioned Obama’s tax plans. Joe has since become a conservative folk hero after telling both Fox News and the conservative Web site Family Security Matters that he thought Obama’s plans sounded “socialist.”

                        At their encounter, Wurzelbacher told Obama that “I’m getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280 thousand dollars a year,” before asking whether or not Obama would raise his taxes.

                        If the company is actually that profitable, and depending on how the business is organized legally, Obama’s plan would indeed raise his federal income taxes, and Obama conceded as much during the exchange. As we’ve written before, small businesses commonly are organized in such a way that their owners file business taxes as individuals. So if Joe’s plumbing business earns more than $200,000 per year (or $250,000 if Joe is married and files tax returns jointly) then his taxes would indeed be higher under Obama's plan than under McCain's.

                        It’s worth noting that while Wurzelbacher told Fox News’ Neil Cavuto that he lives “in a simple, middle class home” and portrayed himself as an ordinary working guy, Wurzelbacher’s $250,000 to $280,000 is a bit higher than "ordinary." In 2007, the last year for which the Census Bureau has figures, the median income for a family in Toledo, Ohio, was $43,553.

                        But Joe the Plumber wasn’t through yet. He made an encore appearance when McCain recycled a bogus claim that Obama would "fine" small business owners who fail to provide health care coverage for their workers:

                        McCain: Now, my old buddy, Joe, Joe the plumber, is out there. Now, Joe, Sen. Obama's plan, if you're a small business and . . . you've got employees, and you've got kids, if you don't get – adopt the health care plan that Sen. Obama mandates, he's going to fine you . . . I don't think that Joe right now wants to pay a fine when he is seeing such difficult times in America's economy.

                        McCain raised a similar charge at the last debate. It's still false. Obama’s plan, which is posted on his Web site, specifically says, “Small businesses will be exempt from this requirement.”

                        Obama hasn't defined exactly what he means by "small" but he seems to think Joe would qualify; he repeatedly referred to Joe’s “small business” during their exchange.

                        Obama's health plan does mandate that children have health coverage. If Joe doesn't provide insurance for his kids, he would face some unspecified penalty.

                        Health Care Hype

                        Obama and McCain traded boasts and accusations on each other’s health carebob plan. They ran afoul of the facts a few times.

                        Obama: And we estimate we can cut the average family's premium by about $2,500 per year.

                        The Obama camp does estimate that. But experts we talked to found that optimistic figure hard to believe.

                        Then, McCain said:

                        McCain: Sen. Obama wants to set up health care bureaucracies, take over the health care of America through — as he said, his object is a single payer system. If you like that, you'll love Canada and England.

                        Obama’s plan is not a single-payer system, which would be one in which everyone has health care provided and paid for by the government. Under Obama’s health care plan, Americans can keep the insurance they have, choose from federally-approved private plans or buy into a new public plan similar to the health care federal employees and members of Congress have.

                        McCain was referring to comments Obama made at a town hall meeting in Albuquerque in August. But Obama did not say that "his object is a single payer system." He said it would "probably" be his first choice "if" he were starting with a clean slate, which he isn't. He said his object is to "build up the system we got." According to the Wall Street Journal, Obama said:

                        Obama (as quoted by the Wall Street Journal, Aug. 19): If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system. ... [M]y attitude is let’s build up the system we got, let’s make it more efficient, we may be over time — as we make the system more efficient and everybody’s covered — decide that there are other ways for us to provide care more effectively.

                        Back in 2003, Obama was much more explicit. At an AFL-CIO forum, he said he was “a proponent of a single-payer health care program,” adding, “that’s what I’d like to see. And as all of you know, we may not get there immediately.”

                        That was five years ago, however, and recently, Obama has said he’d favor single-payer only if “starting from scratch.” He told The New Yorker in May 2007: “If you're starting from scratch, then a single-payer system ... would probably make sense. But we've got all these legacy systems in place, and managing the transition ... would be difficult to pull off. So we may need a system that's not so disruptive.”

                        Obama exaggerated a weakness in McCain's health care plan:

                        Obama: Now, under Sen. McCain's plan there is a strong risk that people would lose their employer-based health care.

                        Experts see a risk that some would lose their employer-based care, but Obama’s reference to "people" makes it sound as though nearly everyone would. Two independent studies both found that McCain’s plan would lead to a net decline in the number of people with health care through their jobs. (They said Obama’s would result in a net increase.) Both reports show, however, that there’s not a “strong risk” for all, or even a majority, of workers to lose their health care.

                        Currently, 159 million Americans have health care through their jobs, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation. A study by the Lewin Group shows a net decline in the number with job-provided benefits of 9.4 million people in 2010 for McCain's plan. The Tax Policy Center projected that the net decrease would be 7.7 million in 2010 and 20.3 million people by 2018.

                        McCain and Obama both said much more that may have confused viewers. For a spin-free look at both of the candidates’ health care plans, see our recent article on this issue.

                        100% Negative?

                        Obama falsely claimed all of McCain's ads had been "negative."

                        Obama: And 100 percent, John, of your ads – 100 percent of them have been negative.
                        McCain: It's not true.
                        Obama: It absolutely is true.

                        It was almost true, for one recent week. Obama was referring to a report by the Wisconsin Advertising Project at the University of Wisconsin that concluded that “nearly 100 percent of the McCain campaign’s advertisements were negative” during the week of Sept. 28 through Oct. 4. During the same week, 34 percent of the Obama campaign’s ads were negative. The Obama campaign was found to have outspent the McCain campaign in nearly all of the competitive states, in some cases by a margin of more than 3-to-1.

                        McCain’s ads, however, have not been deemed 100 percent negative in other weeks. In fact, in the week after the Republican National Convention, 77 percent of Obama’s ads were negative, according to the advertising project, while 56 percent of McCain’s were negative.

                        Wrong on Exports to Colombia

                        McCain was way off when he said that Colombia is "our largest agricultural importer of our products." To be sure, Colombia is an important trade partner. According to statistics from the Department of Agriculture, Colombia imported slightly more than $1.4 million worth of U.S. agricultural products in 2007. But that's not even close to the nearly $1.9 billion worth of agricultural products exported to Canada. And there are dozens of other countries that import more U.S. farm products than Colombia does.

                        Obama No Maverick

                        Obama exaggerated his willingness to defy his own party. When McCain asked for an example, Obama offered this:

                        Obama: First of all, in terms of standing up to the leaders of my party, the first major bill that I voted on in the Senate was in support of tort reform, which wasn't very popular with trial lawyers, a major constituency in the Democratic Party.

                        obamaThat 2005 bill was S.5, which dealt with class-action lawsuits. Obama was one of 18 Democrats voting for it, while 26 opposed. It's a stretch for Obama to claim that he bolted his party when nearly 41 percent of Democrats voted in favor of the bill.

                        And as we pointed out before, Obama has a pretty consistent record of voting in stride with his party. According to Congressional Quarterly, in Obama's three years in the Senate, he has voted with his party almost 97 percent of the time.


                        Budget Ballyhoo

                        Both candidates got ahead of themselves when it came to balancing the budget and eliminating the deficit. Obama said every one of his spending increases was paid for.

                        Obama: Now, what I've done throughout this campaign is to propose a net spending cut. ... Every dollar that I've proposed, I've proposed an additional cut so that it matches.

                        McCain said he could balance the budget within one term.

                        Schieffer: Do either of you think you can balance the budget in four years? You have said previously you thought you could, Sen. McCain.
                        McCain: Sure I do. And let me tell you...
                        Schieffer: You can still do that?
                        McCain: Yes.

                        These are pie-in-the-sky predictions. We've looked at McCain's balanced-budget promise before – it's out of reach unless he cuts spending to an unrealistic degree. The Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center estimates that by 2013, at the end of his first term, McCain's tax plan would have him facing a $662 billion deficit. That could come to more than half of that year's discretionary spending, which the Office of Management and Budget projects to be $1.1 trillion. And we've previously disputed Obama's claim that "every dime" of his proposed spending is covered. The Tax Policy Center estimated that Obama’s plan – and McCain's, too – "would substantially increase the national debt over the next ten years" unless the candidates come up with "substantial cuts in government spending" that they haven't yet specified. More recently, the Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget also estimated that in 2013, Obama’s major budget proposals – including spending cuts – would increase the deficit for that year by $281 billion.

                        The $42,000, Again.

                        McCain was on the wrong side of this exchange:

                        McCain: Sen. Obama talks about voting for budgets. He voted twice for a budget resolution that increases the taxes on individuals making $42,000 a year. . . .

                        Obama: [T]he notion that I voted for a tax increase for people making $42,000 a year has been disputed by everybody who has looked at this claim.

                        McCain was wrong to say Obama's March 2008 vote for a budget resolution "increases" anything. Budget resolutions set targets for taxes and spending; actually raising or lowering them requires separate legislation.

                        mccain The $42,000 figure also would only apply to single taxpayers, not to couples or families. As we’ve reported, a single taxpayer making more than $41,500 would have seen a tax increase, but a couple filing jointly would have seen no increase unless they made at least $83,000, and for a couple with two children the cut-off would have been $90,000. Regardless, the increase that Obama once supported as part of a Democratic budget bill is not part of his own current tax plan. And Obama was right when he said "even FOX News disputes" McCain's $42,000 claim. Chris Wallace of Fox News agreed that it was misleading.

                        Wrong Justice

                        McCain said that Obama voted against the confirmations of Supreme Court Justices Stephen Breyer and John Roberts:

                        McCain: Senator Obama voted against Justice Breyer and Justice Roberts on the grounds that they didn't meet his ideological standards.

                        McCain probably meant to say that Obama voted against the confirmations of Roberts and Justice Samuel Alito, the most recent additions to the court. Obama did vote against the confirmation of Roberts, but he wasn’t in the Senate when Breyer was nominated to join the Court. Breyer was nominated to the Supreme Court by former President Bill Clinton and confirmed by the Senate in 1994. Obama didn’t become a senator until January 2005.

                        Charter School Slip-Up

                        Obama overstated his work on charter schools in Illinois:

                        Obama: Charter schools, I doubled the number of charter schools in Illinois despite some reservations from teachers unions.

                        Actually, the bill Obama cosponsored doubled the number of charter schools in Chicago, not in the entire state of Illinois. (And an extra slap on the wrist to Obama for using the personal pronoun in saying that "I doubled the number of charter schools" – as we've pointed out before, it takes a lot more than one politician to get a bill passed.)

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                        • coreyschucky
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 2058

                          Tried But Untrue

                          And we noted that both candidates continued to recycle bunk that we've heard before:

                          * McCain said once again, "We have to stop sending $700 billion a year to countries that don't like us very much." As we've noted several times in the past, $700 billion would have been the cost of all annual U.S. oil imports when the price was $140 per barrel. But it's down to about half that now.

                          * Obama said oil companies have "68 million acres that they currently have leased that they're not drilling." We've previously criticized him for similar statements, and it's still not true. As we've pointed out, there is exploratory drilling being done on much of these lands, which are not yet producing oil. In 2007 there were more than 15,000 holes that were being proposed, started or finished that do not count as "productive" holes.

                          * Listing some of his running mate's achievements, McCain credited Gov. Sarah Palin with “a $40 billion pipeline of natural gas that's going to relieve the energy needs" of the lower 48 states. We'll just note, again, that the pipeline is still in pre-development and is actually projected to cost $26.5 billion.

                          Sea Story

                          Finally, the ears of nautical buffs may have perked up when McCain said, “we've sailed Navy ships around the world for 60 years with nuclear power plants on them.” His naval history is off by a few years. The first nuclear-powered vessel, the submarine USS Nautilus, was actually launched Jan. 21, 1954.

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                          • coreyschucky
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 2058

                            Originally posted by coreyschucky
                            Charley Reese has been a journalist for 49 years.

                            545 PEOPLE
                            By Charlie Reese

                            Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
                            Have you ever wondered why, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, we have deficits?
                            Have you ever wondered why, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, we have inflation and high taxes?

                            You and I don't propose a federal budget. The president does.

                            You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
                            You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.

                            You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.

                            You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.

                            One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one president, and nine Supreme Court justices 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.

                            I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913,
                            Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.

                            I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a president to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
                            Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault.
                            They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.

                            What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have
                            the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The president can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.

                            The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? She is the leader of the majority party. She and fellow House members, not the president, can approve any budget they want. If the president vetoes it, they can pass it over
                            his veto if they agree to.

                            It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million can not replace 545 people who stand convicted - by present facts -
                            of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must
                            follow that what exists is what they want to exist.

                            If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.

                            If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.

                            If the Marines are in IRAQ, it's because they want them in IRAQ .
                            If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it
                            that way.

                            There are no insoluble government problems.

                            Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists,
                            whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take
                            this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like 'the economy,' 'inflation,' or 'politics' that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.

                            Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.

                            They, and they alone, have the power.

                            They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses provided the voters have the gumption
                            to manage their own employees.

                            We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
                            As basic as this article is it can't be any truer.

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                            • homedawg
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 7689


                              Barack Obama's Skeleton Closet!

                              #1-Obama was not born in the U.S.A./ not a U.S. citizen

                              Obama's Birth Certificate:

                              The ORIGINAL birth certificate of Obama has never been released, and the campaign refuses to release it.

                              The campaign has a false, fake birth certificate posted on their website:

                              - The birth certificate doesn't have a raised seal.
                              - It isn't signed.
                              - No creases from folding are evident in the scanned version.
                              - In the zoomed-in view, there's a strange halo around the letters.
                              - The certificate number is blacked out.
                              - The date bleeding through from the back seems to say "2007," but the document wasn't released until 2008.
                              - The document is a "certification of birth," not a "certificate of birth."
                              - The document doesn't show father's full name!
                              - The document shows the father's race as: African?

                              Obama Crimes

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                              #2 Obama Was Born, Raised, Is a Muslim

                              -Obama was born to Generations of Muslims

                              -Obama was raised for years in Muslim Nations

                              -Obama attended Muslim schools, where he was registered as a Muslim

                              -Obama wants you to believe that his opportunistic conversion to Christianity after being born to generations of Muslims who raised him for years in Muslim nations where he attended Muslim schools has completely eliminated his Islamic Roots and changed his Muslim sympathies.

                              -Obama’s church of 20 years gave many awards to the radical, anti-white, pro-Islamic, Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan.

                              -Obama has been praised and endorsed by the Islamic terrorist group Hamas

                              -Obama has been praised and endorsed by Palestinian Rashid Khalidi, who also has held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi is a harsh critic of Israel, has made statements supportive of Palestinian terror and reportedly has worked on behalf of the Palestine Liberation Organization while it was involved in anti-Western terrorism and was labeled by the State Department as a terror group.

                              -Obama has praised and endorsed, in his autobiography, the founder first President of Nation of Islam President Malcom X

                              -Brother: Muslim ”Obama’s brother Roy opted for Islam over Christianity, as the Senator recounted in his book when describing his 1992 wedding. “The person who made me proudest of all,” Obama wrote, “was Roy. Actually, now we call him Abongo, his Luo name, for two years ago he decided to reassert his African heritage. He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol.”Abongo “argues that the black man must “liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture.” He urged his younger brother to embrace his African heritage.

                              -Sister: Muslim In an interview with the New York Times, Maya Soetoro-Ng, Obama’s younger half sister, told the Times, “I don’t want to deny Islam. I think it’s obviously very important that we have an understanding of Islam ... my brother has been a Christian for (only) 20 years.

                              -Father: Muslim Obama Sr. (Senior) was born in Nyangoma-Kogelo, Siaya District, Kenya.

                              -Step Father: Muslim Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo ws a devout Muslim and Obama went to Mosque on Fridays with him.

                              -Mother: Muslim The evidence seems to quite clearly show that both Ann Dunham and her husband Lolo Soetoro Mangunharjo were in fact devout Muslims themselves and they raised their son as such.”

                              -Grandfather: lived for a time in Zanzibar, where he converted from Christianity to Islam. He was one of the first Muslim converts in his village.
                              Grandfather, for whom Obama was given the middle name, Hussein, was "fiercely devoted to Islam." He had at least 3 wives: Helima, who had no children, Akuma who gave birth to Sarah Obama, Barack Hussein Obama, Sr. and Auma Obama.

                              -Obama’s teachers and the principal from the 1970's: Obama actively took part in the Islamic religious lessons during his years at his school in Muslim Indonesia. “I remembered that he had studied “mengaji” (recitation of the Quran)” “The actual usage of the word ‘mengaji’ in Indonesian and Malaysian societies means the study of learning to recite the Quran in the Arabic language rather than the native tongue. “Mengagi” is a word and a term that is accorded the highest value and status in the mindset of fundamentalist societies here in Southeast Asia. To put it quite simply, ‘mengaji classes’ are not something that a non practicing or so-called moderate Muslim family would ever send their child to. To put this in a Christian context, this is something above and beyond simply enrolling your child in Sunday school classes.”

                              -The Obama Campaign: told the LA Times he wasn’t a “practicing Muslim.” (3/14/2007).

                              - Obama states his "Muslim Faith". Obama acknowledged his Islamic Heritage Sunday, September 7, 2008 during an exchange with ABC's George Stephanopoulos on "This Week", speaking of "My Muslim Faith".


                              The Obama File
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                              #3 Obama's association with the unrepentant terrorist William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground.

                              -Despite having authored two autobiographies, Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.

                              -The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

                              -Documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago

                              - In early 1995, Obama was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the "Collaborative," which shaped education policy.

                              -Obama has misrepresented his relationship with Ayers to the press and someone blocked access to the records detailing the workings of the group founded by Ayers and chaired by Obama.

                              The Real Barack Obama
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                              #4 Obama's relationship with Tony "slum landlord" Rezko

                              -They met in 1990. Obama was a student at Harvard Law School and got an unsolicited job offer from Rezko, then a low-income housing developer in Chicago. Obama turned it down.

                              -Obama took a job in 1993 with a small Chicago law firm, Davis Miner Barnhill, that represents developers -- primarily not-for-profit groups -- building low-income housing with government funds.

                              -One of the firm's not-for-profit clients -- the Woodlawn Preservation and Investment Corp., co-founded by Obama's then-boss Allison Davis -- was partners with Rezko's company in a 1995 deal to convert an abandoned nursing home at 61st and Drexel into low-income apartments. Altogether, Obama spent 32 hours on the project, according to the firm. Only five hours of that came after Rezko and WPIC became partners, the firm says. The rest of the future senator's time was helping WPIC strike the deal with Rezko. Rezko's company, Rezmar Corp., also partnered with the firm's clients in four later deals -- none of which involved Obama, according to the firm. In each deal, Rezmar "made the decisions for the joint venture," says William Miceli, an attorney with the firm.

                              -In 1995, Obama began campaigning for a seat in the Illinois Senate. Among his earliest supporters: Rezko. Two Rezko companies donated a total of $2,000. Obama was elected in 1996 -- representing a district that included 11 of Rezko's 30 low-income housing projects.

                              -Rezko's low-income housing empire began crumbling in 2001, when his company stopped making mortgage payments on the old nursing home that had been converted into apartments. The state foreclosed on the building -- which was in Obama's Illinois Senate district.

                              -In 2003, Obama announced he was running for the U.S. Senate, and Rezko -- a member of his campaign finance committee -- held a lavish fund-raiser June 27, 2003, at his Wilmette mansion.

                              -A few months after Obama became a U.S. senator, he and Rezko's wife, Rita, bought adjacent pieces of property from a doctor in Chicago's Kenwood neighborhood -- a deal that has dogged Obama the last two years. The doctor sold the mansion to Obama for $1.65 million -- $300,000 below the asking price. Rezko's wife paid full price -- $625,000 -- for the adjacent vacant lot. The deals closed in June 2005. Six months later, Obama paid Rezko's wife $104,500 for a strip of her land, so he could have a bigger yard. At the time, it had been widely reported that Tony Rezko was under federal investigation. Questioned later about the timing of the Rezko deal, Obama called it "boneheaded" because people might think the Rezkos had done him a favor.

                              -Eight months later -- in October 2006 -- Rezko was indicted on charges he solicited kickbacks from companies seeking state pension business under his friend Gov. Blagojevich. Federal prosecutors maintain that $10,000 from the alleged kickback scheme was donated to Obama's run for the U.S. Senate. Obama has given the money to charity.

                              -Using his elected office and his clout, Obama helped Tony Rezko and other unscrupulous low-income housing developers obtain millions of dollars in state grants, tax credits, low-interest loans, and regulatory advantages.
                              ___________________________________________
                              #5 Obama and Corruption in ACORN


                              -Obama and ACORN, Fellow Travelers. “ACORN attracted Barack Obama in his youthful community organizing days.

                              -Obama Formerly Represented ACORN, Taught Classes For Future Leaders Of ACORN

                              - Obama Worked As Executive Director Of ACORN’s Voter-Registration Arm, Project Vote.

                              -Obama Was Part Of Team Of Lawyers Who Represented ACORN In A Suit Against The State Of Illinois.

                              -ACORN's Political Action Committee Endorsed Obama.

                              -Obama's Campaign Paid Over $800,000 To ACORN For Get-Out-The-Vote Efforts

                              -Obama Praised ACORN For Being A Good Ally



                              The Real Barack Obama

                              BarackBook

                              Welcome to NOBAMA

                              NObama - Not Now, Not Ever

                              HELL NObama.

                              Obama WTF
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                              MORE TRUTH, TO COME!

                              Obama's "A" List

                              Rev Wright
                              Tony Rezko
                              Michelle Obama
                              Louis Farrakhan
                              William Ayres
                              Bernadine Dorhn
                              Rashid Khalidi
                              Nadhmi Auchi
                              Frank Marshall Davis
                              Saul Alinsky
                              Kwame Kilpatrick
                              Rev Meeks
                              George Soros
                              Raila Odingo
                              Abongo Obama
                              Black Panthers
                              Ludacris
                              Jim Johnson
                              Franklin Raines
                              Ahmad Yousuf (Hamas)
                              Fidel, Raul Castro
                              Hugo Chavez
                              Daniel Ortega
                              Kim Jong Il
                              Al Mansour
                              Pfleiger Capers Funnye
                              Muhammad Hasa Chandoo
                              Wahid Hamid
                              Valerie Jarret
                              Robert Malley


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                              • homedawg
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2007
                                • 7689

                                Another Lawsuit

                                Philip J Berg lawsuit, Obama Indonesian, Obama ineligible, Public awareness, Washington State lawsuit, Secretary of State Sam Reed, verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship status


                                October 15, 2008 ·


                                A lawsuit has been initiated against Washington State Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship status. I am reporting this not to detract attention away from Philip J Berg’s lawsuit but out of a sense of obligation to report the news and because this reveals a heightened sense of awareness of the constitutional crisis.

                                Support Philip J Berg’s lawsuit and demand coverage by the media:

                                Obama Crimes

                                Here is a news release for the Washington State lawsuit:

                                “FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

                                Contact: Steve Marquis
                                Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
                                Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
                                Web site address: Top Page

                                Averting a Crisis in Confidence; Citizen files Lawsuit Against Washington Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship status.

                                Seattle WA. 10/9/2008 — Steven Marquis, a resident of Fall City WA today filed suit in Washington State Superior Court against Secretary of State Sam Reed demanding verification of Barack Obama’s citizenship status.

                                The complaint seeks specifically that the office of the Washington Secretary of State verify and certify that Mr. Obama is or is not a “natural born” citizen by producing original or certified verifiable official documents. The lawsuit argues that this certification should take place before the election to preclude a constitutional crisis and likely civil unrest should such certification, after the election, prove that Mr. Obama was not qualified for office.

                                The Complaint argues that the Secretary of State has the authority and duty to not only certify the voters but also and most importantly the candidates and in so doing prevent the wholesale disenfranchisement of voters who would had had an opportunity to choose from qualified candidates had the certification preceded the election process.

                                At this point, Mr. Obama has not allowed independent or official access to his birth records nor supporting hospital records. The Hawaii Health Department has violated Federal law by ignoring formal Freedom of Information requests for the same. Due to the facts and numerous other allegations that would challenge Mr. Obama’s fundamental qualifications for office, a Federal lawsuit was filed and is currently being heard in District Court, Pennsylvania.

                                Mr. Obama failed to respond to the District Court’s request to produce or allow access to the official documents (should they exist) and instead filed a motion to dismiss arguing the Plaintiff had no “standing” or right to know. This non-response as of 9/24/2008 in Federal court casts doubt on the veracity of the electoral system and is the principal reason for this lawsuit. The late entry of this suit is due in principal part to Mr. Obama’s delay and subsequent non response to reasonable request for valid certificates. Multiple requests for early certification to the Office of the Secretary of State has been rejected.

                                [clarification: The district court process itself demands a response from Mr. Obama. When a complaint is filed, the defendant has an opportunity to respond to the judge regarding the plaintiffs request for a preliminary injunction. Obama did respond, but not with the requested documentation, not even minimally so. He responded with a motion for dismissal based on “standing” rather than the merits of the case]

                                The Washington Secretary of State Office is specifically charged with certifying and guaranteeing the veracity of official documents and overseeing the elections to wit the people’s confidence in the fundamental aspect of democracy is maintained. To date, in this regard, Secretary of State Sam Reed has not carried out that fundamental duty.

                                This lawsuit demands injunctive relief directing Sam Reed, Secretary of State, carry out the duty of his office in this regard answering the formal complaints for verification of Mr. Obama and any other candidate appearing on the ballots issues through his office for which formal complaints have been received.

                                Interested Parties may contact Plaintive as follows:
                                Contact: Steve Marquis
                                Telephone Number: 425-698-7084
                                Email Address: peoplesvoice@peoplespassions.org
                                Web site address: http://peoplespassions.org/peoplesvo...lesvoice.html“

                                View the lawsuit here:

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                                What can you do as a citizen?

                                Contact your local media and boycott their advertisers if they do not cover the Berg Lawsuit and Obama’s citizenship issue.

                                Contact your state board of elections and gives them your concerns about Obama’s eligibility to be president and also what they are doing to prevent voter fraud. Let them know they will be held accountable.

                                Visit the Petition to Impeach, expel Senator Obama:

                                Barack Obama Impeachment


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