Does America really want a change?

**dananderson32** · 09-12-2008, 01:38 PM

Originally posted by homedawg

N.Y. is alot closer than they were in the last 4 elections! :thumbs:

I see JMac @ 270 right now. :beer2:

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not sure i consider 8 pt difference close in NY state, closer then years before yes, close enough to worry no

**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 03:09 PM

Hillary might have been better, says Biden
From correspondents in Washington
September 13, 2008 04:05am

BARACK Obama's White House campaign was in crisis last night after his running mate Joe Biden admitted Hillary Clinton might have been a better Democrat choice for vice-president.

The extraordinary confession, effectively challenging Mr Obama's decision to snub the former first lady, was the campaign's second major gaffe in just 24 hours.

It came as the Illinois senator defended himself against claims he was referring to Republican vice-presidential nominee Sarah Palin when he said: "You can put lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig.'

Mr Biden's comments underlined Democrat fears that women voters are turning in droves to John McCain since he plucked the Alaskan governor from obscurity.

"Make no mistake about this, Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president," Mr Biden said.

The 65-year-old Delaware senator told voters in New Hampshire: "She might have been a better pick than me. She's first rate."

A spokesman for Mr McCain immediately said Mr Biden's comments suggested 47-year-old Mr Obama had botched his "most important decision of this election campaign".

The double blow to the Democrats, already reeling from "the Palin effect" in the polls, has led to a series of top level meetings aimed at getting the once buoyant campaign back on track.

**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 03:19 PM

Hanging On to Biden�s Every Word
By JOHN M. BRODER
Published: September 11, 2008

Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr., the Democratic vice-presidential candidate, is an experienced, serious and smart man. But, boy, does he say some curious things. A day on the campaign trail without a cringe-inducing gaffe is a rare blessing. He has not been too blessed lately.

Just this week, Mr. Biden mused that the Democrats� nominee for president, Senator Barack Obama, might have been better off with Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton as his running mate.

�Hillary Clinton is as qualified or more qualified than I am to be vice president of the United States of America,� Mr. Biden said Wednesday in Nashua, N.H. �Quite frankly, it might have been a better pick than me.�

In Columbia, Mo., this week, Mr. Biden urged a paraplegic state official to stand up to be recognized. �Chuck, stand up, let the people see you,� Mr. Biden shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham, before realizing, to his horror, that Mr. Graham uses a wheelchair.

�Oh, God love ya,� Mr. Biden said. �What am I talking about?�

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But it was the remarks about Mrs. Clinton that touched a potentially sensitive spot for the Obama-Biden campaign. With Gov. Sarah Palin�s addition to the Republican ticket potentially energizing some female voters, Mr. Biden�s remarks raised anew a question: Would Mr. Obama have been better off picking Mrs. Clinton as his running mate?

One could imagine the campaign of Senator John McCain, the Republican presidential nominee, even using Mr. Biden�s remarks in its own advertisements to exploit misgivings among women about the Democratic ticket.

Shortly after Mr. Biden was named as Mr. Obama�s running mate, the Republican National Committee started a �Biden gaffe clock� to keep track of his slips.

Mr. Obama knew what he was getting when he picked Mr. Biden: A veteran of six terms in the Senate, chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee and former chairman of the Judiciary Committee, an Irish Catholic with working-class roots, a guy who had twice been tested in the arena of presidential politics.

And a human verbal wrecking crew.

This is the fellow who nearly derailed his nascent presidential campaign last year by calling Mr. Obama �articulate and bright and clean,� and who noted that a person needed a slight Indian accent to walk into a Dunkin� Donuts or 7-Eleven in Delaware, his home state.

The man who, reading his vice-presidential acceptance speech from a teleprompter, bungled Mr. McCain�s name and called him �George.� (�Freudian slip, folks, Freudian slip,� he explained.)

The man who, on the day Mr. Obama announced him as his running mate, referred to his party�s presidential nominee as �Barack America� and noted that his wife, Jill Biden, a college professor, was �drop-dead gorgeous� but, problematically, possessed a doctorate.

The man who has said he is running for president (not vice president) and who confused Army brigades with battalions. Who referred to Ms. Palin as the lieutenant governor of Alaska.

Aides to Mr. Obama said that Mr. Biden�s propensity to misspeak could pose problems, particularly in the vice-presidential debate on Oct. 2. They are watching his performance but have not tried to rein him in. They have assigned two veteran minders to travel with him � David Wilhelm, a former Democratic National Committee chairman, and David Wade, a former spokesman for Senator John Kerry.

Mr. Wade said that Mr. Biden�s stumbles proved to voters that he was human and that they helped them relate to the candidate.

�For anybody who�s gone to Joe Biden events and watched how voters connect with him,� Mr. Wade said, �there�s a pretty big gap between the expectations of the elite media who seem to crave scripted, blow-dried drones out of central casting instead of regular folks who want to see some honesty and candor. They appreciate it that he takes the voters seriously and doesn�t take himself too seriously.�

Mr. Wade added: �I�ve never heard a voter say they wanted someone who was more scripted, more slick and who talks to me in sound bites. If they wanted stuffed shirts, we�d be preparing for an October debate with Mitt Romney.�

Those who have known Mr. Biden for a long time say they see him as a man with an equally big heart and mouth.

�He has overwhelming support here; he�s well liked,� said James M. Baker, mayor of Wilmington, Del., Mr. Biden�s home. �We forgive him every once in a while when he says something dumb � �Oh, that�s just Joe.� �

Mr. Biden recognizes that his tongue sometimes ventures far ahead of his brain and often catches himself with a smile.

In Fort Myers, Fla., last week, he referred to the �Biden administration,� before quickly correcting himself to say the �Obama-Biden administration.�

�Believe me, that wasn�t a Freudian slip,� he said, laughing and crossing himself. �Oh Lordy day, I tell ya.�

**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 03:34 PM

**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by dananderson32

not sure i consider 8 pt difference close in NY state, closer then years before yes, close enough to worry no

The last poll in N.Y. was 8/14! :beer2:

**dananderson32** · 09-12-2008, 05:50 PM

Originally posted by homedawg

The last poll in N.Y. was 8/14! :beer2:

you worry about your boy johnny mac winning your state before NY

**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by dananderson32

you worry about your boy johnny mac winning your state before NY

:laughing: if bush can do it twice, JMAC can do it! :thumbs:

whattup with those snobs in cali? Do they even know the Obamamessiah tax plan? :boog:

**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 07:28 PM

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**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 07:35 PM

September 12, 2008

McCain-Palin 2008 Releases New Video: "Symbols Of Hope"

ARLINGTON, VA -- Today, McCain-Palin 2008 released its latest video, entitled "Symbols of Hope." The video features John McCain speaking about the value that immigrants have brought and continue to bring to this country, and why we need immigration reform. The video will be played at tonight's Alma Awards.

Script For "Symbols Of Hope":

JOHN MCCAIN: Whether from Italy, Ireland, Mexico, or the Far East, too often, new immigrants have been treated as objects of fear, instead of symbols of hope.

My friends, I want to be clear.

I believe all immigrants are symbols of hope.

That's why when I'm President, addressing the immigration problem will be a priority.

We'll solve it with legislation that's practical and fair.

Fairness to all is the key to success.

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**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 07:41 PM

McCain-Palin 2008 Launches New Radio Ad: "Stem Cell"

ARLINGTON, VA -- Today, McCain-Palin 2008 released its latest radio ad, entitled "Stem Cell." The ad highlights a McCain administration's support for stem cell research to advance medical discovery and treatment.

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**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 07:45 PM

**homedawg** · 09-12-2008, 08:19 PM

**Skinsfan** · 09-12-2008, 10:39 PM

Idea for a bumper sticker:

Obama Bin Biden '08
Keep The Change

**homedawg** · 09-13-2008, 08:56 AM

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'You Might Think It's Barack the Bomb Thrower'
Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 8:52:50 pm PST

Barack Obama is standing up for the rights of suspected terrorists.

On Monday in Michigan, Obama became exercised when talking about the need to give even suspected terrorists legal rights.

“We may think this is Mohammed the terrorist,’’ he said at a campaign rally, but “it might be Mohammed the cab driver. You might think it’s Barack the bomb thrower. But it might be Barack the guy running for president.’’

Continuing, he got more heated, his voice booming. Referring to the Constitution, he said: “Don’t mock the Constitution! Don’t make fun of it! Don’t suggest that it’s un-American to abide by what the founding fathers set up! It’s worked pretty well for 200 years!!’’

He finished with a sigh: “These people."

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**homedawg** · 09-13-2008, 11:47 AM

Palin Speaks at Army Deployment Ceremony for Son

By Shushannah Walshe , Fox News
September 13, 2008

Fairbanks, Alaska-- Sarah Palin spoke at the Army deployment ceremony for her 19 year old son, Private First Class Track Palin and about 4,000 other soldiers. She received a warm reception from the families and the troops.

Track is a member of the First Stryker Brigade known as the Arctic Wolves. He will head to Kuwait for some more training and then on to Iraq later this month.

Palin thanked the families and soldiers and used a line often used by her running mate, John McCain, "Each one of these soldiers is here by choice," Palin said. "A call to serve something greater than self. Something greater than self, especially when the need is so great. But for every soldier who leaves us today it is a choice that defines you and always will wherever you go in your time of service and beyond."

"The call to serve something greater than self" is the reason McCain often gives for wanting to be President.

Today, the seventh anniversary of the September 11th attacks, the Governor of Alaska told the soldiers about to be shipped off that they must protect Americans from those who planned those attacks, "You'll be there in service to the same cause of freedom from tyranny and from violence. You'll be there to defend the innocents from the enemies who planned and carried out and rejoiced in the deaths of thousands of Americans. You'll be there because America can never go back to that false sense of security that came before September 11th, 2001."

Palin also reminded the Arctic Wolves of the struggles that troops in Iraq before them battled through, but said now success is close and these troops will be there for victory. She did not mention the surge directly, but often does on the stump and how her running mate advocated the increase in military.

"The troops who served and struggled through years of setbacks have now brought victory within sight. And because of their hard-won gains-- and many of you were a part of that effort-- because of their hard-won gains, because they confronted evil and overcame adversity, you and others like you will be there to see the mission through," Palin said. "You will be there to win. You will see victory. But between that day and this, there is more work to be done, hardship to be endured, and sacrifice to be accepted."

Palin did not get visibly emotional at the ceremony, but said to the soldiers to be prepared for a few tears from their loved ones, "As you depart today don’t mind us: your parents, your friends, your family if we allow for a few tears or if we hold you just a little closer once more before you are gone because we are going to miss you. We can't help it we are going to miss you," Palin said. "This is one of the moments when we have to face the fact that you may not need our protection anymore in fact you are the ones who will now be protecting us."

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