Guzman vs Soto

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  • V3r1f13d
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1748

    Guzman vs Soto

    Guzman -170
    Soto +140

    Huge step up for the undefeated Guzman. The guy is short, stalky, and techincal. Reminds me of Sharmba Mitchell. Soto is relentless though.

    They are trying to set up a showdown with Guzman and any big named fighter, but I don't think he is ready for that. People think that we are sleeping on this guy, but the fact to me is that he isn't THAT good. B+/A- fighter at best. Now 31, he isn't getting any better.

    I should know better than to bet against Guzman with them trying to set up a big fight between him and a namer, plus he is undefeated, but I'm going to do it. ONLY because Soto can bang and Guzman's chin hasn't been fully tested. That is all that I am banking on. No one really knows if Guzman can take shots, so its a toss up. 50/50. Give him the undefeated factor and the odds look just right.

    Soto, +140, 1 Unit.
    Sketchy play...not very confident...but taking a shot.
  • EddieP
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 1680

    #2
    like guzman in this one,call it a hunch.... havent been betting lately,have nothing left to loose........... good luck v3 on who ever you go with:thumbs:

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    • V3r1f13d
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2007
      • 1748

      #3
      Just placed.

      Soto at +140 ; 1 Unit

      Thanks Eddie...

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      • EddieP
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2007
        • 1680

        #4
        good luck bud will be pulling for soto:thumbs: hey do you know if strike force is on the tube tonight???? man i wanna see cung le:beerbang:

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        • V3r1f13d
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2007
          • 1748

          #5
          Strikeforce To Stream Live On Yahoo! Sports

          Between Rounds

          Available to all internet users located beyond a 150 mile radius of San Jose, the live stream, free of charge to viewers, will begin at 8 PM PST (11 PM EST) and include the entire Strikeforce four-man, single-elimination tournament, featuring middleweight (185 lb. limit) stars Trevor Prangley (16-4), Falaniko Vitale (24-7), Yuki Sasaki (21-13-1), and Jorge Santiago (14-7). Each tournament bout will consist of two, five-minute rounds.

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          • EddieP
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2007
            • 1680

            #6
            hmmm yahoo sports never used that,do i need a manual to set it up?? lol

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            • EddieP
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1680

              #7
              never mind i got it:thumbs: thanks

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              • V3r1f13d
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 1748

                #8
                Pulling for Niko Vitale on this one...

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                • V3r1f13d
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1748

                  #9
                  Weigh in's came in a little off. Both weighed in a little over (.2) and Guzman came back a lot less while Soto came in on point.

                  I don't like my play more and more as time goes on but I wouldnt change it so it works out for me. What will shock me is if this thing goes all 12 with no knock downs. Guzman is too sturdy to take a flash knock down, but sturdy to the point where if Soto lands flush he's on wobble street.

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                  • V3r1f13d
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 1748

                    #10
                    Little bit of late money comming in on Soto drops it to +130
                    Thats what I like to see...

                    EDIT
                    Dropped again. Now +120
                    Last edited by V3r1f13d; 11-17-2007, 08:01 PM.

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                    • V3r1f13d
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 1748

                      #11
                      Typical HBO nut-riding to keep talking about Guzman. The only thing Guzman has proved so far is that he can take several punches straight to the face. Soto has the edge so far, Guzman hitting gloves and now lands a low blow.

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                      • V3r1f13d
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1748

                        #12
                        So Harold (literally wears ear muffs to drown out the BS) ends it at 115-113 Guzman. I had it 115-113 Soto.

                        HBO, crowd, and the judges see it completly different and make it a land slide.

                        Well, Guzman does have a chin...thats what he showed me.

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                        • EddieP
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2007
                          • 1680

                          #13
                          who won?? i didnt watch it.......

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                          • CuseFan10
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 4446

                            #14
                            Originally posted by V3r1f13d
                            So Harold (literally wears ear muffs to drown out the BS) ends it at 115-113 Guzman. I had it 115-113 Soto.

                            HBO, crowd, and the judges see it completly different and make it a land slide.

                            Well, Guzman does have a chin...thats what he showed me.
                            I agree. I missed the first round, but that was a joke (the scores). 116-112 at best, but I agreed with Lederman on almost every round he had scored. Guzman does not impress at all. Manny Pac-Man would rip he a new ******* if he takes Guzman on (which would be a joke) since Guzman doesn't deserve it.

                            The one guy had it 118-111? Seriously? These boxing judges are a complete joke.

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                            • V3r1f13d
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1748

                              #15
                              @Eddie - Guzman won.

                              @Cuse - The fight could have really gone either way and leaning towards Guzman is cool, I could say he won and be fine with it, wasnt a robbery or anything just bad scoring. Guzman can take a punch though, guys head is a cinder block, took a bunch of flush shots and it didn't even phase him.

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